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re: Clancy trial verdict predictions
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:16 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:16 pm to LNCHBOX
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Literally all you needed to say. He's guessing. Logically speaking one person holding out of reasonable doubt points to one dummy thinking any doubt is reasonable doubt. But Red knows this jury is going to be the best shot he will get at a favorable outcome for his client, so he's pushing to get it done now instead of a mistrial.
A less likely but possible situation is that the holdout is actually insisting on NGRI.
The rest might have agreed to a lesser charge that he is ok with. He wants to get it done now with this jury because the prosecution will be able to come back and improve their case while the defense really can't. There is no other way you can spin the defense other than the way they did it IMO.
Like I said, I don't think that situation is likely necessarily but it is possible.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:17 pm to dallastiger55
quote:Y'all?
Yall are crazy
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:18 pm to rt3
If she is found NGRI because of postpartum psychosis then I believe they better start removing children from some households for their own protection
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:19 pm to STigers
This already happened with Andrea Yates. Why is everything in such an up war about this? I’m guessing because that was 20 years ago? Because of the Internet? This is nothing new.
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:21 pm to STigers
“Men can’t have an opinion on postpartum depression because they will never give birth or understand what women go through”
So are these feminists literally admitting that a man can’t be a woman?
So are these feminists literally admitting that a man can’t be a woman?
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:37 pm to Jay31
quote:nobody cared about it back then like they do now. I think that’s the most interesting thing about the case. It’s not the outcome. It’s the people on both sides having no understanding of what the frick is going on and just running with shite. It’s fricking crazy. People thinking if she’s found innocent means she’s going to walk out the door.
Time is a flat circle
If it were my choice, she would be found guilty and go to jail. I don’t care how crazy you are, you kill your kids you need to go to prison. You need to be in the worst environment. But people need to understand that she’s not gonna be walking out the door and this is nothing new.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:42 pm to DustInTheWind
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People thinking if she’s found innocent means she’s going to roll out the door.
FIFY
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:44 pm to DustInTheWind
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But people need to understand that she’s not gonna be walking out the door and this is nothing new.
There is a mechanism that she could be free in a year if found NGRI.
Highly unlikely, but possible.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:48 pm to DustInTheWind
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So, she’s either gonna be found guilty of murder, or innocent because of insanity, correct? Like Andrea Yates? Andrea Yates is still locked up in a mental institution. Is that what we’re looking at here? We’re not looking at her walking out the door, right?
Even if the jury ultimately returns a verdict of not guilty by reason of mental illness, it does not mean she walks free. A verdict of not guilty by reason of lack of criminal responsibility from what I have read regarding Mass law typically results in continued confinement and treatment at a secure psychiatric facility. Clancy would not be immediately released.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:49 pm to KosmoCramer
And that to me would be worth uproar definitely. I don’t like that she would be going to a mental institution and I don’t like that there would be any chance that she would get out at all. So I understand that. But people need to understand that nobody just walks out of the courtroom after they do something like this. Highly unlikely yes. Like, less than 1%. Andrea is still in confinement from 2006. I just want everyone to understand that.
What is new about this case is the women going crazy on TikTok. But the case itself, this is all pretty normal.
What is new about this case is the women going crazy on TikTok. But the case itself, this is all pretty normal.
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:52 pm to DustInTheWind
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But people need to understand that she’s not gonna be walking out the door and this is nothing new.
She could be out of the mental institution in under 5 years for murdering her 3 children.
Andrea Yates is still in the institution because she refuses to leave, if I remember correctly.
NGRI doesn’t mean she spends her life confined, although it absolutely should.
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:53 pm to Scruffy
She chooses not to do the hearing. But she’s not able to leave. She can choose to do the hearing if she wants. to see if she’s allowed to leave. She chooses to not even bother with it. I wonder why?
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:57 pm to DustInTheWind
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So, she’s either gonna be found guilty of murder, or innocent because of insanity, correct? Like Andrea Yates? Andrea Yates is still locked up in a mental institution. Is that what we’re looking at here? We’re not looking at her walking out the door, right?
She ain't WALKING out anywhere!
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:57 pm to LNCHBOX
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Again, how on Earth could he possibly know this?
We know that one juror is holding out. We also know that this jury consists of 9 women from MASSACHUSETTS. So logically, do you think that one holdout is pro-baby killer or anti-baby killer?
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:59 pm to DustInTheWind
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And that to me would be worth uproar definitely. I don’t like that she would be going to a mental institution and I don’t like that there would be any chance that she would get out at all. So I understand that. But people need to understand that nobody just walks out of the courtroom after they do something like this. Highly unlikely yes. Like, less than 1%. Andrea is still in confinement from 2006. I just want everyone to understand that.
What is new about this case is the women going crazy on TikTok. But the case itself, this is all pretty normal.
This issue is how NGRI is set up in Massachusetts. Yates is in Texas. It's a massive difference.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 4:03 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:what’s the difference?
This issue is how NGRI is set up in Massachusetts. Yates is in Texas. It's a massive difference.
It’s pretty much the same. You can actually look this up.
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 9/3/26 at 4:06 pm to sports101
quote:She probably spend only a few years in a mental institution if found NGRI.
She ain't WALKING out anywhere!
Posted on 9/3/26 at 4:07 pm to DustInTheWind
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what’s the difference?
The same three letters do not mean the laws are identical.
In Texas, Yates had to prove that a severe mental disease left her unable to know that killing her children was wrong. Being mentally ill or unable to control herself wasn’t enough if she still understood that her actions were wrong.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 4:08 pm to Klark Kent
Look up the rules. They are the same. They are very easy to look up. We have access to all these things now. Look at the differences between the two. It’s not that hard to find.
I can post it if you want.
I can post it if you want.
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 4:10 pm
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