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re: Clancy trial verdict predictions

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Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 2:47 pm to
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Sure seems they are leaning NGRI

As much as it sucks, the prosecution was so bad I think that’s the “right” verdict according to Mass law

The law sucks and the penalty sucks worse. You should still face life outside of Gen pop even if you were insane .
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Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 2:48 pm to
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Clancy’s defense attorney insinuates there is a lone juror who is holding out and refusing to find Clancy not guilty.


Again, how on Earth could he possibly know this? He also didn't say anything like that so that tweet is just clickbait nonsense, but that's another topic
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 2:48 pm to
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Is it possible that the others agreed to a lesser charge and the one is holding out for full first degree murder? Kind of a middle ground and not straight up NGRI.
In Karen Read's first trial, Auntie Bev declared a mistrial even though they were unaniumus on all the major charges.
Posted by dallastiger55
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 2:50 pm to
0% chance shes convicted. Yall are crazy
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 2:50 pm to
Honestly, if the hang up is the definition of reasonable doubt, it's more likely that it's a holdout that is refusing to convict clinging to ANY doubt
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 2:52 pm to
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Honestly, if the hang up is the definition of reasonable doubt, it's more likely that it's a holdout that is refusing to convict clinging to ANY doub
Thats what I said as well and what I hoped but the courtroom makes it appear different. I don’t know
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 2:52 pm to
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Thats what I said as well and what I hoped but the courtroom makes it appear different


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Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 2:53 pm to
Of course they don’t “know”, but when the actions of both the prosecution and defense point towards the same thing, well….
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 2:54 pm to
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Of course they don’t “know”, but when the actions of both the prosecution and defense point towards the same thing, well….


ok
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 2:58 pm to
I mean he really is a fricking dumbass if he is fighting this hard to remove the 1 juror who is voting in favor of Clancy

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Posted on 9/3/26 at 2:58 pm to
Jury sent home for the day
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 2:59 pm to
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I mean he really is a fricking dumbass if he is fighting this hard to remove the 1 juror who is voting in favor of Clancy


Give me a simple explanation how the frick he would know that though. You can't do it.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:01 pm to
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Give me a simple explanation how the frick he would know that though. You can't do it.
They read jurors and the like for a living. He doesn’t know but he clearly feels that way and it’s clear the prosecution feels that way too

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:03 pm to
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He doesn’t know


Literally all you needed to say. He's guessing. Logically speaking one person holding out of reasonable doubt points to one dummy thinking any doubt is reasonable doubt. But Red knows this jury is going to be the best shot he will get at a favorable outcome for his client, so he's pushing to get it done now instead of a mistrial.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:04 pm to
Then why does the prosecution not want that juror gone if your guess is so good?

I originally thought thr same as you , we were both clearly likely wrong considering how both sides reacted to the lone juror
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Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:06 pm to
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Then why does the prosecution not want that juror gone if your guess is so good?


Because them pushing for the removal could be grounds for an appeal maybe? They also most likely would love to retry this case. Win win for them.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:07 pm to
Prosecutions have a better chance at retrials than defense when they decide to retrial.
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:08 pm to
Court back in session
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:10 pm to
Jury finished for day... deliberations resume at 9 AM ET tomorrow
Posted by DustInTheWind
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:14 pm to
So, she’s either gonna be found guilty of murder, or innocent because of insanity, correct? Like Andrea Yates? Andrea Yates is still locked up in a mental institution. Is that what we’re looking at here? We’re not looking at her walking out the door, right?
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