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re: Civil War Confederate veteran interview
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:32 pm to Mike da Tigah
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:32 pm to Mike da Tigah
It all started because northerners began putting tomatoes in gumbo
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Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:36 pm to red sox fan 13
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Interview with former slave of Jefferson Davis
Another interesting one I came across. There’s more slave and soldier videos if you search it up. I’m not going to get all political here. I just like hearing what they had to say
Opened this thread to see if this had been posted yet. I listen to this interview fairly regularly. It blows my mind. Fascinating perspective.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:39 pm to red sox fan 13
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This is a video of a recording of a Civil War veteran in 1947.
Can you imagine fighting in the civil war and living long enough to see WWII
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:46 pm to meeple
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:47 pm to Michael J Cocks
That’s it! His voice is unmistakable. Thanks!
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:58 pm to Sus-Scrofa
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Again, we’re talking human slavery, it can’t be downplayed or brushed aside.
Do you, by chance own anything made by Nike?
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:04 pm to sugar71
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Overall slave owning Households 1860 Census:
Is that the same census that showed a freed black man was 8 times more likely to own black slaves than a white man?
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:07 pm to tonydtigr
Don’t hit him with the honest point blank truth… how do you expect him to ignore reality ?!?!?
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:10 pm to tigahbruh
One of the best overviews on this I’ve ever read. Are you a historian?
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:12 pm to Michael J Cocks
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Michael J Cocks
Holy frick
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:45 am to brmark70816
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They built all these dumb statues and tried to give themselves honor for rebelling against our Country. He proudly pranced around, in his fake uniform, with his pretend rank. It is a joke.
You are describing your distaste of the subject, which is fine, but it's mostly emotional distaste as opposed to any sort of round historical discussion.
In the confederate army, which was a fairly novel concept, unit leaders were largely voted on by the troops themselves, which surprisingly worked fairly well as troops wanted self preservation and tactics and did not elect troop leaders who would just go easy on them. So no, ranks were not tossed around ceremoniously by a ruling elite within the confederate army. Also, battle awards and medals were notably absent within the CSA - this is differs from armies globally, historically, and the Union army. A confederate soldier(s) would maybe get mentioned in a general's war correspondence and that was viewed as enough. Your opinion that southern veterans wallowed in pomp and rank and self appointed glory isn't all that well supported. The middle to the end of the war, similar to WWI and many others was a pretty grim affair for civilians and enlisted. The aftermath of the war in the south was no different.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:37 am to BAMAMAN73
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Straight from the source. The war was all about states rights.
Because there was absolutely no way Confederate veterans would deliberately misinterpret the events which led to the Civil War in the decades after they lost it. By 1947, the Lost Cause mythology was 100% developed and surviving Confederate veterans parroted the line over and over again that they weren't fighting for anything other than States' rights. Okay. The States' rights to do what?
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:42 am to red sox fan 13
If this is the one I know, he is asked why people fought. Hint: it wasn't slavery.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:49 am to Barbellthor
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If this is the one I know, he is asked why people fought. Hint: it wasn't slavery.
And he'd be right (for the most part). There were very few Confederate soldiers who themselves were exclusively fighting to protect the rights of Southerners to own slaves. However, secession came about as a direct result of an attempt to defend the institution of slavery. To deny this would be denying the very arguments the secession conventions made when they voted to secede.
Slavery was a rich man's game and rich men are the ones who send the blue collar workers to war.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:50 am to BAMAMAN73
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Straight from the source. The war was all about states rights. Slavery was a very minor cause, if one at all. We all know the North was just as bad as the South when it came to the treatment of blacks, and to be honest, it sounds like from this guy that the blacks didn’t have it too bad back then even with slavery going on. Shows how much propaganda hammered into people for decades can completely change the perception of something.
This reads like something El Gaucho would write as a troll
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:55 am to RollTide1987
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*insert topic* was a rich man's game and rich men are the ones who send the blue collar workers to war.
A tale as old as time.
And meh on the slavery. It was the catalyst, yes. And for those rich few with slaves, that was a substantive issue. But the POINT, certainly for those doing the dying, was self governance. Something like 75/25 self governance to slavery, if that. With today's narrative you'd think it were 1/99 or 0/100.
Put it like this. Gay marriage is no different. I don't care if gay people marry. I care if 9 people in robes start declaring state policy, however.
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 6:59 am
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:57 am to Man With A Plan
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No, but cherry picking some documents and making the war as only being about the slavery issue is dishonest at best, i
The Articles of Secession is basically their version of the Declaration of Independence. He isn’t referencing some notes scribbled on a napkin on a bar
The document literally gives the reasons for leaving the Union
Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:55 am to red sox fan 13
This video has been taken down. Dang shame. Guess THE TRUTH didn't conform to todays wokeness.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:10 am to Man With A Plan
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No, but cherry picking some document
Some documents? You mean the very documents that the enumerated the reason the states seceded? All the states that produced such documents said slavery or an issue surrounding slavery was the cause. Period.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:14 am to El Magnifico
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It is a fact that white Irish and poor English children were being shipped here as slaves before the African slave trade took off, and they were treated far worse, as they were cheaper for their jew masters to buy and discard.
LMAO, the Irish themselves know what you said is bullshite.
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