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re: Civil War Confederate veteran interview

Posted on 6/4/21 at 8:25 pm to
Posted by rockford177
Virginia
Member since Feb 2008
543 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 8:25 pm to
Thank you for sharing that. Very interesting! My children were taught in school the civil war was fought for slavery. They were shocked when I explained men do not go to war for a few men to keep slaves when the vast majority did not own slaves. States rights encompassed the north taxing the south to oblivion, hence we got sick and tired of it. I am glad I taught my kids the true meaning of the war, which slavery was only a small piece of the puzzle.
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3204 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 8:33 pm to
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I’m digesting it now. My first reaction is...
He was just a boy.

How many of us knew anything at 16?


True... However, I would be careful not to judge his 16 through the lense of our culture and 16 year olds... I suspect his 16 was more seasoned in life experiences...
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
2875 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 8:35 pm to
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blacks didn’t have it too bad back then even with slavery going on
Posted by West Palm Tiger561
Palm Beach County
Member since Dec 2018
1527 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 8:40 pm to
" I didn't have any white children associates, so I played around with the nigruh children" I find it amusing how old south pronounces the N word.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36797 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 8:54 pm to
What a shame elitists of today have revamped history and fit-formed it into meeting their narrative to advance a political agenda. The South Was Right!
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
8141 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:00 pm to
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Straight from the source. The war was all about states rights. Slavery was a very minor cause, if one at all. We all know the North was just as bad as the South when it came to the treatment of blacks, and to be honest, it sounds like from this guy that the blacks didn’t have it too bad back then even with slavery going on. Shows how much propaganda hammered into people for decades can completely change the perception of something.


If slavery was a cause, you can’t call it minor. It’s fricking slavery. The “didn’t have it too bad” line you typed is a horrible terrifying statement. Again, we’re talking human slavery, it can’t be downplayed or brushed aside.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34464 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:03 pm to
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That guy probably had a fraction of the formal education that today’s elites but sounds infinitely more intelligent
. There’s actually a lot of evidence to support this. As a “civilized” society, we develop much less problem solving and analytical skills than previous generations. Plus, we likely spend about 8 hours a day being passively entertained.

Essentially, we know more, but think less.
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
15347 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:06 pm to
Interview with former slave of Jefferson Davis
Another interesting one I came across. There’s more slave and soldier videos if you search it up. I’m not going to get all political here. I just like hearing what they had to say
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4565 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:32 pm to
The it was not about slavery folks may want to read this:LINK
Posted by CuyahogaTigerJr
Northeast ohio
Member since Aug 2018
2184 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:33 pm to
Listened to it all, very good!
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33040 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

blacks didn’t have it too bad back then even with slavery going on


Yeah they were only slaves smh
Posted by Man With A Plan
Member since Nov 2019
899 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:48 pm to
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The last part was very interesting. He said the South did not fight for the preservation or extension of slavery. They were fighting for states rights.

This was the accepted fact on the war of northern aggression up until the 1930's after the last veterans died off, history was rewritten, making the civil war being about slavery and how the south was evil. History usually isn't rewritten until decades after the event.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4565 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:52 pm to
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This was the accepted fact on the war of northern aggression up until the 1930's after the last veterans died off, history was rewritten, making the civil war being about slavery and how the south was evil. History usually isn't rewritten until decades after the event.


So these articles of sucession are fakes?

LINK

I'm not vouching that they are genuine or not, but you're sure they were written in the 30s?

Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:58 pm to
It mean in the Mississippi declaration of secession it specifically declares it was because of the right to own slaves. It's literally in black and white signed by the state's leaders.
I imagine it was pretty easy to manipulate people back then considering people still fall for Babylon Bee articles. I don't really fault anyone that was a front line grunt in that war cause they had no say.

I'm sure every soldier had a copy of the declaration too because printing presses were everywhere.
This post was edited on 6/4/21 at 11:00 pm
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
8131 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:11 pm to
Absolutely amazing to listen to him. I’m a huge history buff and cant wait to share this with my daddy (a Vietnam Vet) tmrw.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124046 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 1:23 am to
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" I didn't have any white children associates, so I played around with the nigruh children" I find it amusing how old south pronounces the N word.


It’s all just lingual degradation from the Latin. It just means black. Dark.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124046 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 1:30 am to
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Again, we’re talking human slavery, it can’t be downplayed or brushed aside.


It’s going on today. When are you going on crusade?
Posted by PetroBabich
Donetsk Oblast
Member since Apr 2017
4612 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 7:13 am to
quote:

it sounds like from this guy that the blacks didn’t have it too bad back then even with slavery going on.


The old slavery wasn't that bad argument

The veteran says, "I knew of some brutality as I call it exercised against some of the negro slaves." But hey his family didn't do it and he played with slave babies as a kid so slavery wasn't all that bad.
Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
21966 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 8:22 am to
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Any particular right they had in mind? Maybe just states rights as a whole?


keep in mind that this was only a few generations removed from those that left the crown because they didn't like to be told what to do. they sought freedom. their kids' kids' (civil war soldiers) were raised in that same manor. don't tread on me, got dammit. don't tell me what to do.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 8:30 am to
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this was only a few generations removed from those that left the crown because they didn't like to be told what to do


Simple as that.
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