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re: City Council passes package of measures to probe Entergy New Orleans' Ida response
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:17 pm to mikelbr
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:17 pm to mikelbr
quote:Woof. Lots of ignorance here.
My neighborhood power is buried. The line coming down the road is not. You're missing the point like a typical wife.
WHY can one damaged pole take out power to 200 homes? Answer why that is the case in 2021?
I didn't expect Entergy to respond to us first.
I expected a more stable infrastructure with redundancy.
The neighborhood to our left on the highway never lost power.
One more time for the kids in the back. Ida did NOT hit our neck of the woods very hard. There is NO excuse for 6 days without power. This is not a slap in the face to the people out of power for 3 weeks or more.
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:21 pm to ell_13
quote:
Lots of ignorance here.
I’ve argued with a few people these last few days but this one takes the cake.
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:24 pm to WPBTiger
Can’t wait for NO to announce the sewer and water board will be taking over.
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:25 pm to TimeOutdoors
SWB generated and distributed more power during IDA than Entergy did.
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:29 pm to DaTruth7
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If I was your wife I'd find the nearest bridge. I'll bow out because you obviously have a very low understanding of the flow of electricity, trees by lines, and priority of customers after a cat 4/5 hurricane.
What I do have is an intimate and extensive understanding of manufacturing facilities along the Mississippi River in Louisiana.
I also have decades of experience with Cox ISP and 2.5 years now with Eatel. Cox, like Entergy, would have you believe that 99% uptime is AMAZING and you should be grateful there aren't more outages. Cox reps use to tell me in 2018 it's normal to have outages every night when internet traffic was heavy.
But in 2.5 years having EATEL as my ISP in Ascension, I've had NO OUTAGES. NONE. NOT a single minute of downtime. I've worked from home since April 2020 and know this to be a fact.
We never lost our internet during Ida, even when the pole down the street got knocked down (the data lines were intact and laying on the ground).
Just b/c you beat us over the head to make us accept a shitty service level doesn't make it okay. We need competition for power providers and that's the bottom line.
Entergy sucks and you white knights for them suck too.
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:33 pm to mikelbr
"old red neck yells at cloud"..... ascension parish was heavily impacted by the storm
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:33 pm to mikelbr
None of this rabble is relevant. I’m glad your internet kept working.
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:37 pm to mikelbr
you do realize communications cables can be hit with branches or trees and be fine, while lines carrying tens of thousands of volts and hundreds to even thousands of amps, in which if an arc forms from a tree branch an ionized path of air continues unless something trips the line, are very much different?
i mean shite, voltage is so high on those lines, current can literally flow through the ground causing an extremely dangerous step potential than can kill people
i mean shite, voltage is so high on those lines, current can literally flow through the ground causing an extremely dangerous step potential than can kill people
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:43 pm to DVinBR
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:47 pm to DaTruth7
Yup and substation in sorrento lost both of its feeds due to transmission line damage
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:49 pm to DVinBR
quote:
you do realize communications cables can be hit with branches or trees and be fine, while lines carrying tens of thousands of volts and hundreds to even thousands of amps, in which if an arc forms from a tree branch an ionized path of air continues unless something trips the line, are very much different?
BINGO!
Then why is power carried on the same shitty pole as comms? Putting it 30 feet higher don't make it more reliable. Just less likely to kill people.
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 11:58 pm
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:59 pm to Putty
Lot of revisionist history in this thread.
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 9/24/21 at 12:07 am to Tall Tiger
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Entergy NO has a pitiful infrastructure that fails when the weather is good. It happens at my house all the time, in fact in the middle of the night a mere 10 days before Ida -- I really enjoyed sleeping in the heat the night before work. And this is the company that couldn't keep the lights on at the Super Bowl.
I'm no fan of the city council, but on this one point they are actually right. Give this company hell.
Thank you. I was trying to hammer home that exact point by bringing up a 4 hour outage to my neighborhood in February. Why is our power infrastructure so fragile? It goes way deeper than hurricanes.
This post was edited on 9/24/21 at 12:09 am
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:25 am to mikelbr
you do realize that putting all distribution underground is absurdly expensive right?
high voltage cables are actually more complex than you think, more complex than a coax, fiber, twisted pairs
they're harder to splice, more prone to failure than communications cables, and way harder to replace
high voltage cables are actually more complex than you think, more complex than a coax, fiber, twisted pairs
they're harder to splice, more prone to failure than communications cables, and way harder to replace
This post was edited on 9/24/21 at 1:30 am
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:37 am to mikelbr
here's a good video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogYA1AE9_lc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogYA1AE9_lc
This post was edited on 9/24/21 at 1:41 am
Posted on 9/24/21 at 3:14 am to DVinBR
I'm sure one of the Entergy guys here know, but I thought underground transmission lines were encased in oil/fluid or some sort of gas. Not just an overhead line buried deep enough.
Posted on 9/24/21 at 5:35 am to DVinBR
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step potentia
Most people have zero idea what this. You’ve obviously either been involved with utility work or maybe an EE. Ground grid integrity within substations is extremely critical to persons performing switching. Step potential can kill you dead. Static can also be deadly or debilitating on ungrounded conductors.
Like some have said, arguing these points is fruitless. People that don’t understand how the entire grid works won’t be swayed with logic.. They’ll never be satisfied with any utility’s response time. If the outage occurs just one span to the left or right, it can effect different customers in different ways. Sometimes it’s simply luck of the draw on storm damages.
While I was employed there, Entergy’s SAIFI and SAIDI were among the nations best.
SAIFI - System average interruption frequency index
SAIDI - System average interruption duration index
Posted on 9/24/21 at 6:15 am to fightin tigers
quote:
but I thought underground transmission lines were encased in oil/fluid or some sort of gas.
That’s the old way and it’s a maintenance nightmare.
Posted on 9/24/21 at 6:29 am to CE Tiger
Gotcha. Still some in use like that?
Posted on 9/24/21 at 7:05 am to mikelbr
quote:
Do you think it's okay for Entergy to continue to replace janky arse poles with janky arse poles and make no effort to underground or clear trees from power lines in cities?
Agree on the weak poles, but is it cost effective, or even structurally effective to improve the poles?
Do you understand how insanely expensive underground electrical of that size would be?
A poster earlier in this thread stated there is a significant amount of vegetation regulation. Is that true? If so, isn’t that the city’s fault?
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