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re: City Council passes package of measures to probe Entergy New Orleans' Ida response

Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:12 pm to
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:12 pm to
City of New Orleans makes no sense to be bitching. They had first light 48 hrs after the storm. What the frick did they expect. Lake Charles post Laura is once again just showing how clueless and always playing the victim card New Orleans will always be
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
12984 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:13 pm to
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It is going to be hilarious when the city takes over as power provider.



and has the same exact problems, because all of the transmission lines that feed New Orleans are Entergy owned
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8623 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:13 pm to
Did NOPSI manage the actual transmission lines?
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:13 pm to
Yes
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:14 pm to
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People just understand the eye while it was still a strong CAT3 crossed over all of the Transmission infrastructure that feeds New Orleans from around/south of Baton Rouge (mainly Willow Glen) (with exception of the line in NOLA east that goes to Slidell)


There is a bit more than that. There was an idle plant in the East that was sold a base generation (no where near enough for complete power) that could have kept some power to the city.

Entergy sold that plant to be one thing and then it wasn't.
Posted by Sherman Klump
Wellman College
Member since Jul 2011
4457 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:14 pm to
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Probably because they make a lot of money off of them?


Not sure if this is tongue in cheek. If not you lose all credibility with this statement. Your lack of understanding has never been more apparent.

Hopefully tongue in cheek though - if that is case. Forgive me.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54093 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:15 pm to
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It is going to be hilarious when the city takes over as power provider.

Maybe they can burn the garbage to produce green energy. Two birds/one stone.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:16 pm to
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Did NOPSI manage the actual transmission lines?


Maybe not the ones that fell, they could have been in JP or what was Jefferson.

Nopsi mainintained power generation on the east bank that may have made reliance on transmission lines less necessary.
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
12984 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:16 pm to
they got the line in service from Slidell to feed NOLA east in the Michoud area back in service within a couple of days, you are way better off with getting that line back in service rather than islanding the area off of a black start
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:17 pm to
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Maybe they can burn the garbage to produce green energy. Two birds/one stone.


Sweden does it....NOLA ain't no Sweden.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8623 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:17 pm to
It's crazy to me. I pictured CNO "engineers", a title given to a HS dropout who shows up to work, flinching as they flipped a switch in that plant in the east.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:18 pm to
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you are way better off with getting that line back in service rather than islanding the area off of a black start


Agreed. I think the area that needs to be discussed is that Entergy sold it as a black start.

That project was such a shitshow from the beginning that it looks like it was a waste
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29386 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:19 pm to
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Why doesn’t Entergy just tell NOLA To go get fricked?

They kinda did by calling the city’s bluff.

Entergy will be fine without New Orleans. This happens and they’ll be looking to move the corporate headquarters too. So Latoya will chase away the city’s last Fortune 500 company and get stuck with having to manage the power grid. Which they cannot do and will fail spectacularly if they try.

You get what you vote for, NOLA.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:19 pm to
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That project was such a shitshow from the beginning that it looks like it was a waste


That plant being there and used as a switching station is why power was restored so quickly
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:21 pm to
Had the project been what it was originally intended to be, and not scaled way down, the city would have been in a much better position though.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9361 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:21 pm to
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Do you think it's okay for Entergy to continue to replace janky arse poles with janky arse poles

They were actually in the process of upgrading transmission lines in the NOLA area when Laura hit. Resources (including materials) slated for that project got diverted to replacing damaged infrastructure in the Lake Charles area. Then, they had started the work in NOLA again when Ida hit. In other words - the transmission lines that failed are not being replaced with the same “janky arse poles.”
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and make no effort to underground

This has been covered ad nauseum. At this point if you don’t understand why it isn’t happening, you are either intentionally ignoring the people explaining it or you will just never understand.

One thing to note - whenever new neighborhoods are built with underground lines, the developer foots that bill.
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or clear trees from power lines in cities

I don’t know how anyone can possibly think they are making “no effort” to clear trees from power lines. I have seen a more concerted effort from Entergy and their contractors to clear trees from lines in my neighborhood over the past 2-3 years than I saw in the 2 decades prior. Hell, my dad who lives in the boonies was pissed because they came and cut back the live oaks along the line that feeds his sub-pole - and that only affects one customer in the middle of nowhere.

I’m not some kind of mouthpiece for Entergy. I’ve seen them half-arse projects on the generation side (non-nuclear) because they were being cheap. But from what I’ve seen, they have done a pretty damned good job on the distribution side over the past few years.
Posted by DaTruth7
Member since Apr 2020
3811 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:22 pm to
They decided against a black start because of risks. Supposedly the option was there
Posted by DaTruth7
Member since Apr 2020
3811 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:24 pm to
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They kinda did by calling the city’s bluff.

Entergy will be fine without New Orleans. This happens and they’ll be looking to move the corporate headquarters too. So Latoya will chase away the city’s last Fortune 500 company and get stuck with having to manage the power grid. Which they cannot do and will fail spectacularly if they try.

You get what you vote for, NOLA


Yep take a look at the 2020 financials. Entergy New Orleans isn't worth much to Entergy. Sell it and let Nola rot
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47506 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:26 pm to
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They pay up ya poor. You have to pay more if you want better. Better infrastructure equals rates go up.....and then you complain. It's like saying you want a million dollar house for 200 grand. You live in fantasy land



The same 3 posters keep saying this bullshite. But nobody can tell us what it would cost and why it hasn't been happening incrementally for 22 years?
Florida is doing it. Do they pay twice what I pay for electricity every month?
Florida spending billions to improve reliability
What has Entergy done in the last 15 years?
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For example, Florida Power & Light (FPL) spent $5 billion in the last 15 years on projects to strengthen its grid.

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FPL saw the fruits of its efforts in 2017 after Hurricane Irma, Bertot said. Impacted substations were up and running a day after the storm, compared to an average down time of five days after Hurricane Wilma in 2005.

Get a new angle on your argument. You're full of shite.
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The average monthly electricity bill for Florida Power & Light's residential customers was 94.38 U.S. dollars per 1,000 kilowatt hours in 2020. This was the lowest average monthly electricity bill since 2016, when they amounted to 92.14 U.S. dollars per 1,000 kilowatt hours.Feb 12, 2021

FPL average light bills
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 10:28 pm
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15379 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:29 pm to
This sounds like a good ole fashion shakedown.
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