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re: City Council passes package of measures to probe Entergy New Orleans' Ida response

Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:31 pm to
Posted by DaTruth7
Member since Apr 2020
3811 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:31 pm to
I just don't understand what you are complaining about? Do you think power doesn't go out in Florida when a hurricane come through?.... because Entergy sends crews there to help when it does. You like to complain about crap. We get it.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:31 pm to
I’d love to see total pole counts of FPL compared to Entergy. FPL and their hardening is probably 1/10th of what Entergy has
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:33 pm to
Remember this in five years, New Orleans. You voted for this.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:36 pm to
quote:

What has Entergy done in the last 15 years?


Go drive outside Ninemile and look at the steel poles coming out that corridor, check out the st Charles power station, lake Charles power station, New Orleans power station. Drive to fouchon and see the steel pole line that took Ida in the fricking mouth and came out with a few messed up insulators,

Running a utility isn’t about just changing out wood poles.
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 10:37 pm
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47463 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:41 pm to
quote:

I just don't understand what you are complaining about? Do you think power doesn't go out in Florida when a hurricane come through?.... because Entergy sends crews there to help when it does. You like to complain about crap. We get it.



I'm complaining about being out of power for 6 days after Ida when not a single house in my neighborhood took structural damage.

I'm complaining b/c one pole on the line feeding our neighborhood was knocked down and took 6 days to repair.

I'm complaining that a single pole 200 feet away from this one was knocked down by a distracted driver last winter, causing a 4 hour outage.

Why CAN this happen? They spend NOTHING on reliability and preventative maintenance. Entergy simply throws a TON of resources responding to outages and we're expected to be grateful for 26,000 linemen showing up to help. Oh and by the way, we're footing the bill.

If Entergy would spend an ounce of time and resources on figuring out WHY a single distracted driver can take out power to 200 homes for 4 hours in the winter, they figure out how to improve reliability during hurricanes.




This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 10:43 pm
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

they'd spend an ounce of time and resources on figuring out WHY a single distracted driver can take out power to 200 homes for 4 hours in the winter, they may start to regain our trust and figure out how to improve reliability during hurricanes.




You do realize how an electrical circuit works right??
Posted by DaTruth7
Member since Apr 2020
3811 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:43 pm to
I lost power for 6 days when others were out 2 weeks wahhh. I lost power for 6 days out of a year because of a natural disaster wahhh. You are ridiculous.
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 10:45 pm
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
12959 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:44 pm to
yup, not even close



This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 10:45 pm
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9292 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:44 pm to
quote:

For example, Florida Power & Light (FPL) spent $5 billion in the last 15 years on projects to strengthen its grid.

Have you actually looked at what those projects consisted of?
quote:

- Hardening or undergrounding 98 percent of main power lines serving critical community functions and services, such as police and fire stations, hospitals, ports and 911 centers

- Clearing vegetation – a major cause of power outages – from more than 15,000 miles of power lines each year, which is equivalent to a round trip flight from Miami to Tokyo

- Inspecting all of the company’s 1.2 million distribution power poles within an eight-year cycle, and upgrading or replacing those that no longer meet FPL's industry leading standards for strength (approximately 150,000 poles inspected annually)

- Installing more than 5 million smart meters and more than 110,000 intelligent devices to help predict, reduce and prevent power outages, and restore power faster if outages occur

- Replacing transmission structures, such that 93 percent are concrete or steel

The main “hardening/undergrounding” portion applies to critical services like hospitals - which are already much more likely to have underground service in Louisiana. As for transmission line upgrades, this is something Entergy has been working on for several years - replacing old Gulf States infrastructure with newer poles that have higher wind ratings.

As for undergrounding residential service?
quote:

Last year, the company started the Storm Secure Underground Program, a three-year pilot that focuses on using new technologies and processes to find less expensive ways to underground neighborhood power lines, which will further enhance customers’ service reliability and the energy grid’s resiliency.

So you’re right, their electric rates have not doubled during the 3 year “pilot” program that doesn’t actually promise to add any substantial amount of underground service.

But since we are referencing other states’ actions, I will again point out this report commissioned by North Carolina on this exact subject:

quote:

The Public Staff has determined that replacing the existing overhead distribution lines of the Utilities with underground lines would be prohibitively expensive. Such an undertaking would cost approximately $41 billion, nearly six times the net book value of the Utilities’ current distribution assets, and would require approximately 25 years to complete. The ultimate impact of the capital costs alone on an average residential customer’s monthly electric bill would be an increase of more than 125%. Rates would also be impacted by the higher O&M costs associated with direct-buried underground systems, particularly in urban areas, where underground conductors are four times more costly to maintain than overhead facilities.
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 10:49 pm
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
12959 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

old Gulf States infrastructure


Gulf States sold Entergy a mess of dirt cheap minimalistic infrastructure and was practically bankrupt the time Entergy bought it
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47463 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:53 pm to
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I lost power for 6 days when others were out 2 weeks wahhh. I lost power for 6 days out of a year wahhh. You are ridiculous.




This is what frustrates me. You think I'm complaining about being out of power for 6 days while others have it worse.

The error in that assumption is mentioned in my post.

WE TOOK NO DAMAGE IN MY 200 HOME NEIGHBORHOOD.

We didn't get hit hard by Ida. Not a shingle missing.
And we're very grateful for that.
But ONE SINGLE power pole 700 meters from my house was knocked over and the result was 6 days without power.
Think about that. How does that level of failure ever become acceptable? It shouldn't be. The infrastructure is shite.

This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 10:56 pm
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:56 pm to
quote:

But ONE SINGLE power pole 700 meters from my house


How do you know this was the only damage on your feeder? Did you trace it all the way back to the substation? Did the substation lose its feed? Obviously by your comments you dont really understand how power gets from the substation to your house so just because you didn’t see damage on your block doesn’t mean the feeder and others werent potentially damaged
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 10:57 pm
Posted by DaTruth7
Member since Apr 2020
3811 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:58 pm to
The line that fed the neighborhood was down dude. You can't put all metal poles throughout a neighborhood. And maybe something worse was out down the line. Did you think Entergy was going to fly a chopper to your house and put your lights on first? To quote Biden "come on man"
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 11:00 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84943 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:05 pm to
Touch a nerve, mikee?

My post only had to do with the waste of time this will be… because it will be. They’ll “investigate” and “study” and then nothing will happen. Just like if they did the for the S&WB… or if they did it to Cox Cable… or Ochsner… name the service and some Nola committee is clambering to study how shitty it may be… only to do absolutely nothing.
Posted by Michael T. Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
8229 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:08 pm to
The blind reviewing the blind.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47463 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:11 pm to
quote:

The line that fed the neighborhood was down dude. You can't put all metal poles throughout a neighborhood. And maybe something worse was out down the line. Did you think Entergy was going to fly a chopper to your house and put your lights on first? To quote Biden "come on man"




My neighborhood power is buried. The line coming down the road is not. You're missing the point like a typical wife.

WHY can one damaged pole take out power to 200 homes? Answer why that is the case in 2021?

I didn't expect Entergy to respond to us first.

I expected a more stable infrastructure with redundancy.

The neighborhood to our left on the highway never lost power.


One more time for the kids in the back. Ida did NOT hit our neck of the woods very hard. There is NO excuse for 6 days without power. This is not a slap in the face to the people out of power for 3 weeks or more.



This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 11:12 pm
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47463 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:13 pm to
quote:

Touch a nerve,


I'ma touch your nerve, stud muffin.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

WHY can one damaged pole take out power to 200 homes? Answer why that is the case in 2021?



Because wireless power doesn’t exist?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84943 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:15 pm to
Posted by DaTruth7
Member since Apr 2020
3811 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:16 pm to
If I was your wife I'd find the nearest bridge. I'll bow out because you obviously have a very low understanding of the flow of electricity, trees by lines, and priority of customers after a cat 4/5 hurricane.
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