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re: Church shooting in SC***Update**Suspect Identified/Captured

Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:02 am to
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:02 am to
Anyone else looking at the live feed of his car?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:02 am to
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Then what is the point of having the law?


For crimes that aren't as egregious on their own as this one. Say for instance, burning a cross in someone's yard. That is just vandalism on its own, but hate crime laws allow for further punishment.

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I think the symbolism and a possible federal conclusion that these acts are not tolerated by THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, meaning all of us, is valuable and shouldn't be avoid. If anything, it's an act of solidarity. That point needs to be hit home, just as we let terrorist aboard know that acts on our country won't be tolerated either



I think everyone, without this being investigated as a "hate crime", agrees these acts are not tolerated. There is solidarity. Also, everyone knows he did this out of hate and racism, no need to spend money to prove something we already know to get the same punishment he'd get otherwise.

This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 11:08 am
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
17243 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:03 am to
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The prosecutors will also be pressured to consider charges of terrorism, as a political official was targeted and murdered.

Max penalty for terrorism is death penalty, as well.


this is about as close as it gets to domestic terrorism
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:03 am to
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Couldn't tune in. What was said?


Cliffs: Gov. Haley basically thanked everyone, was proud of everyone throughout the state, then got choked up when saying that the heart and soul of SC was broken with this event.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85910 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:05 am to
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this is about as close as it gets to domestic terrorism



Yes, if it is what it appears to be, it's definitely terrorism.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:06 am to
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this is about as close as it gets to domestic terrorism




Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465807 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:07 am to
quote:

I think the symbolism and a possible federal conclusion that these acts are not tolerated by THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, meaning all of us, is valuable and shouldn't be avoid. If anything, it's an act of solidarity. That point needs to be hit home, just as we let terrorist aboard know that acts on our country won't be tolerated either

what if he pleads to 1st degree murder in South Carolina court? why would we need the federal investigation/prosecution

it's a waste of resources and this is better left to the State where the crime occurred to seek its punishment

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Then what is the point of having the law?

i think it's a silly law that shouldn't exist and this scenario shows why it's just absurd and should be removed
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:08 am to
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it's just absurd and should be removed


Imagine the riots.


No thanks
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:08 am to
Would be totally fine with him being charged as a terrorist.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
10147 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:08 am to
Shelby, NC is 3-4 hours away from Charleston but he was caught about 14 hours after the crime. What did he do during that time?
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29471 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:09 am to
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I don't think that necessarily makes him mentally ill

I think he just really hates black people




Hating an entire group of people based on the melanin content of their skin sounds pretty nuts to me.
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:12 am to
so is someone gonna snipe him?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107512 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:12 am to
What scumbag little coward. they should string him up in town square use him as a piñata then do the same to his POS dad.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:13 am to
Wondering the same thing. He had a decent head start.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14849 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:14 am to
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Shelby, NC is 3-4 hours away from Charleston but he was caught about 14 hours after the crime. What did he do during that time?


One thing he didn't do was have a plan to dump his getaway car. So not only is he a racist murderer he is dumb as a stump.
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
19098 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:15 am to
Not up to the latest here

What did his dad do?
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19695 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:15 am to
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What did he do during that time?


Whack it?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465807 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:15 am to
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So not only is he a racist murderer he is dumb as a stump.

i think there is a large overlap between the 2 concepts
Posted by CuseTiger
Member since Jul 2013
8948 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:15 am to
I'd be okay with a public stoning or hanging for him. Instead he'll probably sit in prison for 20 years while the courts figure out what he's guilty of
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14849 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:16 am to
Fair point.
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