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re: Chronic pain, how do you deal with it?

Posted on 1/23/20 at 7:50 am to
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 7:50 am to
Being lower back and shooting down the thigh, it sounds like a pinching of the nerve. I have had that from a ruptured disc and another time from an inflamed hip flexor.

WIth the length it is persisting, you really need to look at a surgical fix. Dulling the pain the rest of your life is not the answer.

Losing weight takes pressure off and exercise will beef the muscles up around to help compensate, but if you have bone collasped on the nerve then that is a fix that is needed.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 7:50 am to
I once knew a Doc that followed up Chronic with the banger 'Gin and Juice'
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
6810 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 7:54 am to
Intractable back pain is the ultimate MF'er makes living a normal life near impossible. This condition will be with you more or less the rest of your life.

You sound like a younger guy reluctant to go the Workman's Comp or Jones Act route.

Admirable, but ten, twenty or thirty years from now your former company isn't going to be able to help. If it's available to you I'd investigate those options now, your former company carries that insurance for a reason.

I've done chiropractic with acupuncture, physical therapy, yoga and pilates. Helps some but is time consuming, short term relief and chiropratic or PT can get expensive at 2 or 3 days a week.

Tilt tables like advertised by Teeter helped moderately. As the OP said, reducing sugar and eating right is a huge help to reduce inflammation. Plus regular exercise. Get a good ergonomic desk chair and use it as little as possible.

CBD didn't help me, THC / CBD helped very slightly. If I lived in a legal state I'd try smoking, problem with that is now I can't drive so it would be an occasional thing.

Epidural steroid shot worked great the first time for about 18 months, the next two did not they become less effective when repeated. But, well worth trying.

Rhizotomy the nerve burning procedure was very effective and so far have 1.5 years reducing pain level to a 1 or 2 on the majority of days.

Meloxicam is a NSAID that has a bad rap my doctor says is undeserved, reduces inflammation takes about 2 weeks to kick in and I rely on it daily. Still, there are 3 or 4 days a month I take Tylenol #3 when it becomes a 7-8 on the pain scale.

Surgeons know one thing so seek the least invasive procedures available, from spine specialists and neurologists. I may need surgery some day but will run thru all the alternatives first.

Good luck and approach this as a long term condition you'll be managing for the rest of your life.



Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132660 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:02 am to
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If worse comes to worse find the best non invasive surgeon. Backs can be fixed today. 20-30 years ago it was hit and miss.


Lol most back pain wont be fixed with surgery

It is still very hit and miss
Posted by MickeyLikesDags21
Member since Apr 2019
6641 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:04 am to
I deal with mid to upper back but not on the level of you guys. I use Kratom (red strains help w/ sleep) for short term relief but that's just a band aid fix and you need to be careful because it's addictive.

Long term I've had success with working on my core, massages and spinal decompression. I start and end my day just hanging from a pull up bar for a few minutes. Foam rolling personally helps a ton too. I've been looking at stretch benches lately and think I might give that a try.


Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:08 am to
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Lol most back pain wont be fixed with surgery


have two frat brothers that are neurosurgeons, old lady has back issues and I broke my back(on a mountain ) a couple of years ago, both of them said, and they make their living doing this, "whatever you do, don't let anyone cut on your back"
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99704 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:09 am to
Go get Regenexx stem cell done

They have a location in Lafayette
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
22026 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:09 am to
One of my brothers has the worst back issues. Arthritis, deteriorated vertebrae, has a rod in there but needs it to be longer, etc... He had an electronic stimulator implanted with wires up his back. Eased a bit of pain but he still lives with it every day.
Posted by Soul Gleaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
4312 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:17 am to
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Lol most back pain wont be fixed with surgery


Mine had got to the point where I couldn’t stand. Had a microdiscectomy and partial laminectomy. Woke up in recovery feeling 16 again, and have had no issues since. Guess I’m a lucky one.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
26128 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:17 am to
So what exactly do you have going on in your back. I assume you have had a MRI and an Ortho has gave you a proper diagnosis.

Surgery is the answer for some issues and for others it is not.

Taking drugs/cbd/thc/kratom/etc. is not the answer for the rest of your life either.

Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:18 am to
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Ortho


wrong doc to be working on your back, according to neuros
Posted by Soul Gleaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
4312 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:30 am to
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Tunasntigers92


How old are you and what is your diagnosed injury?
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
26128 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:36 am to
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wrong doc to be working on your back, according to neuros


True, you start with an Ortho first usually though. They are the ones that will order an MRI. My regular doc was at the X-ray level.

If it is serious enough I would then move to the neuro.

I would think the OP is at the neuro level now, but someone at some point should have ordered and MRI. What did the MRI say? If he has not had one, get one.
Posted by commode
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2012
1329 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:48 am to
I fractured L4 & L5 jumping into a river in my drunken early 20's. I have avoided pain meds, but was prescribed Meloxican, it is an anti inflammatory meds. Has really help in dealing with the constant pain. I have tried the pain doctors but asked for no RX pain meds. So I got a series of shots, but it turned out to be a scam as I got no relief just a run around about needing more shots but no relief. I'm 45 now and if i over do it i will be in pain for 2-3 days, but manage with message and over the counter meds. I will also second getting a TENS unit.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:41 am to
If hes suffering 2 years he can afford a plane to sacto, and a night or two in hotel.
Two days with the downeys will change his life. One time
Cost will be similar to cost of flight+hotel.

They were originally trained as chiropractic.
Then they learned "network" chiropractic.
Andrew led into new subtleties beyond network.

Works with energies.

Op times his trip with a two day intensive. They will treat him a few times a day.

Gracefulhealth.com

You will both thank me.

This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 9:43 am
Posted by LsuFan_1955
Slidell, La
Member since Jul 2013
1911 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:43 am to
Lose weight, workout at the gym, ride a bike everyday the weather doesn't stop you. I did that, and it works.

I dealt with debilitating back pain for almost 50 years. I know, it isn't fun, but you can beat it.
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 9:45 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135035 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:45 am to
quote:

They were originally trained as chiropractic.
Then they learned "network" chiropractic.
Andrew led into new subtleties beyond network

. Works with energies.


What is “network” chiropractic? Broad strokes.


Now energies interest me.

Are we talking traditional energies
Or we talking next level subteratral energies?

Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10224 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:49 am to
quote:

has a rod in there but needs it to be longer


My ex said the same thing.
Posted by ScoobyDont
Member since Sep 2016
816 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:13 am to
CBD oil.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
5126 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:20 am to
A friend of mine had the implantable nerve stimulator
(blocks pain).Has been life changing for him.He was incapacitated before,now he is able to drive,deer hunt,etc.He still has some pain but is tolerable.
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