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re: Chronic pain, how do you deal with it?

Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:24 am to
Posted by Gumbaw
Member since May 2018
768 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:24 am to
I wear a discreet posture corrector underneath my work clothes and stretch my back with a foam roller when I get home. Also, wear good shoes that are sturdy and have good soles. Majority of back pain starts at the feet/base.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
26504 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:25 am to
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Lol most back pain wont be fixed with surgery


Mine had got to the point where I couldn’t stand. Had a microdiscectomy and partial laminectomy. Woke up in recovery feeling 16 again, and have had no issues since. Guess I’m a lucky one.
There is a big difference between surgery to treat neck and back pain vs surgery to treat arm and leg pain (radicular) caused by a compressed nerve. The latter usually does well, and the former is much more hit or miss.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:26 am to
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the former is much more hit or miss.


I don't think I've ever spoken to a person that had back surgery that said it improved their condition
Posted by georgia
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Member since Jan 2007
9229 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:27 am to
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Neurontin can help but has drawbacks.

It's non-narcotic but it can put you on your arse just like narcotic stuff.



This is true. My dad is on it daily for nerve damage from an amputated leg and doesn't seem to have much trouble with it, but they gave it to me after severing a bunch of nerves in my face and a broken neck from a car accident, and it made my blood pressure go way up, so I got off of it.
My honest opinion is this, a good neurosurgeon is worth their weight in gold and then some. I had a teardrop fracture of c5, and the one I used was able to do a bone graft and keep me out of fusion territory, I have almost full range of motion and pain is totally bearable for me without meds. if I overdo things I take a low dose muscle relaxer before bed, usually once every three months or so. A consult can't hurt.
Posted by Haydo
DTX
Member since Jul 2011
3005 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:29 am to
I've dealt with chronic pain/soreness/tightness in my neck/upper back for years (I'm about to be 30). I tried PT two years ago and it didn't do anything. I went for a month and saw zero progress. I finally went and got an MRI late last year and was diagnosed with degenerative disc disease in C6/C7. Basically doc told me surgery is the only way to truly fix it. He said I'm young, it doesn't stop me from doing anything, it's just always there and annoying and to suck it up and later on down the road if it gets worse come back and see him.

I personally have found yoga to help with it, and everything in general. I haven't tried acupuncture, but I'm intrigued.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106096 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:31 am to
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Have you tried epidural steroid injections? They work good for me. I still hurt but I’m functional and the pain is bearable except in acute situations.


They gave my dad temporary relief, but burning out the nerves has helped long term. It's supposed to last 12-18 months but it's been over two years and still working.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:31 am to
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I personally have found yoga to help with it,


keep at it, they say the key to a successful yoga therapy is the quality of the chemtrails
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
40176 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:34 am to
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The minimal invasive surgery just scared me sometimes
Microdiscectomy? You should get it.
Posted by georgia
445
Member since Jan 2007
9229 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:45 am to
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I thought I may die when I was coming off 24 mg. of Dilaudid,and 60 mg. of MS-Contin a day.



Jesus Christ.
They gave me that after my surgery, but it makes me throw my guts up and I lost a full day worth of memory after taking it. I don't know how people function on that stuff, but I was very clear with the ICU nurses that I didn't want that stuff anywhere near me after the first day.
Posted by Soul Gleaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
4312 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:47 am to
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There is a big difference between surgery to treat neck and back pain vs surgery to treat arm and leg pain (radicular) caused by a compressed nerve. The latter usually does well, and the former is much more hit or miss.


Agreed, my mistake in lumping the two together. I actually never experienced an ounce of pain in my back, but my left leg was shut down. And mainly when I was standing. When lying down, I had about a 6 pain level but as soon as I stood up that sucker shot up to a 10. That’s why I asked OP what the nature of his injury is. I had a fairly severely herniated L5-S1. Rode it out for about 20 years before it got to the point of needing surgery. I’ve always been pretty active (5-6 days a week at the gym type of person), so this helped me make it as long as I did. But it just got to the point that no amount of stretching, walking, or anything would touch it.
Pic of my MRI, bastard was pretty blown out:

Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:51 am to
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I didn't want that stuff anywhere near me after the first day.


love that stuff broke my back up in Colorado a couple of years ago, there was a doc at the ski resort that wanted to airlift me to Denver but I told him we were going home the next morning so he told me to go straight to the ER asap after we landed, he gave me about 20 hydrocodone to get back on but as soon as I got to the hospital(he had called and made preparations,) the doc shot me up with that, it was one of the best feelings I had ever had, I had been in excruciating pain for over 24 hours
Posted by Haydo
DTX
Member since Jul 2011
3005 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:53 am to
The fact that you equate yoga to conspiracy theories is utterly retarded.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:54 am to
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The fact that you equate yoga to conspiracy theories is utterly retarded.


the fact that that flew right over your head like a Patriot missile is udderly obtuse
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
26128 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:58 am to
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I don't think I've ever spoken to a person that had back surgery that said it improved their condition


I have worked with 2 people where back surgery changed their lives for the better. That goes against the narrative of this thread though

There needs to be less scare tactics here and people pumping snake oil cures. There are cases where a surgical solution is a viable option. Surgery is a last resort option, but is an option for some cases.

OP does need to share his personal info here, but should reach out to a proper neurosurgeon and get an opinion if it is as bad as he states.

I can say from personal family use - John Hopkins in Baltimore and UT Southwestern in Dallas have very top notch teams.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 11:03 am to
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I have worked with 2 people where back surgery changed their lives for the better.


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That goes against the narrative of this thread though


good point, I should have added that my neuro friends that told me to not let anyone cut on my back added only as a last resort, I was just trying to gather as much feedback as I could to make a decision, I'm sure many people have been helped with surgery, if not for pain relief but to correct the condition
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 11:18 am to
Weed is the answer you seek.
If you don't know where to find any Go to a local bar and order a beer. Explain this story to your bartender and ask him if he thinks weed would help. Don't ask for any just ask him his opinion. Be sure to wear a grateful dead shirt or something cool. Might have to do this a couple of days before they warm up to you but someone at the watering hole should be able to help. That's what good bartenders do and in friendly states they are called budtenders.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 11:51 am to
sounds silly but its true, at some point you get used to the constant pain and its more of and aggravation the all consuming

took me 10 yrs to get to that point and i no longer know whats its like not to be in constant pain. you just learn what to do to minimize the intensity of the pain so its manageable
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
10218 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 11:59 am to
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IF YOU TAKE OPIATES YOU WILL GET HOOKED AND ULTIMATELY THAT WILL END YOUR LIFE AS YOU ONCE KNEW IT!!!


While I agree that you shouldn't start taking opiates unless necessary, this is not always true.

I know people very close to me (Not me, of course, no way) who have taken opiates for recreation in the past with little negative side effects.

Some people are less susceptible to addiction, and it's always best to follow a physician's recommendation above all else.
Posted by Thunder
Western by God Vernon Parish
Member since Mar 2006
2421 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:00 pm to
I don't have pain as bad as you I'm sure but i do have severe arthritis and work every damn day. frick cbd .... Real cannabis works every single time its tried.... Temporary but damn it works for a few hours
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
64387 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:13 pm to
CBD oil
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