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Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:10 pm to LegendInMyMind
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However, he said, he has no recollection of wearing or owning the shirt.
AKA, the Hillary defense.
frick it, it works. I gotta give the Dems credit, bro.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:13 pm to AMS
Nah you're missing the mark on this one my man. I don't think the jury made the wrong decision, but you absolutely can't have someone lie in jury selection like this. It jeopardizes the case and any hope of an impartial trial.
This question:
Disqualifies the guy.
And what you describe as a "celebration" ceases to be a celebration when you wear a shirt directly referencing the case you're called to serve for.
The NYT called it a protest:
It'd be like a potential juror answering "no" to a question asking "did you or anyone you know participate in the Capitol Riots" and trying to excuse it by saying "well it wasn't a riot, i was just there for the protest." Surely you see the issue in that.
This question:
quote:
"Other than what you have already described above, have you, or anyone close to you, participated in protests about police use of force or police brutality?"
Disqualifies the guy.
And what you describe as a "celebration" ceases to be a celebration when you wear a shirt directly referencing the case you're called to serve for.
The NYT called it a protest:
quote:
March on Washington 2020: Protesters Hope to Rekindle Spirit of 1963
Thousands gathered for a protest on Friday aiming to recall the March on Washington and the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s “I Have a Dream” speech.
It'd be like a potential juror answering "no" to a question asking "did you or anyone you know participate in the Capitol Riots" and trying to excuse it by saying "well it wasn't a riot, i was just there for the protest." Surely you see the issue in that.
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:13 pm to jchamil
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I hope you are just fricking with us and for your sake don't believe that bullshite you posted
No, she believes it 100%. There is nothing at all that could happen or come out that would change her mind.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:13 pm to Ingeniero
Where is C on Z to defend this? 
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:15 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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How is it possible they could not have found this our during jury selection?
Planned in advance
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:17 pm to Ingeniero
Well, this is a shocker.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:19 pm to Ingeniero
so we agree there is no issue with the first question.
where in that does it say it was a protest about police brutality? seems to be about MLK not police brutality.
quote:
Thousands gathered for a protest on Friday aiming to recall the March on Washington and the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s “I Have a Dream” speech.
where in that does it say it was a protest about police brutality? seems to be about MLK not police brutality.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:20 pm to AMS
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where in that does it say it was a protest about police brutality? seems to be about MLK not police brutality.
They were protesting MLK?
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:20 pm to Ingeniero
Chauvin never stood a chance at a fair trial.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:21 pm to HempHead
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They were protesting MLK?
i didnt write the article or invent the holiday.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:21 pm to Ingeniero
Meanwhile, they continue to drag out the sentencing phase because they know Chauvin will be let out of jail immediately upon appeal.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:23 pm to AMS
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i didnt write the article or invent the holiday.
I think it is pretty disingenuous of you to act as if there is no significant correlation between that "celebration" and what can be construed as a BLM protest.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:24 pm to Ingeniero
The verdict on appeal should be set aside and a new trial ordered. There are many reasons for it.
But it won’t. Too political and too many are scared of the blm /antifa mobs
But it won’t. Too political and too many are scared of the blm /antifa mobs
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:25 pm to AMS
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where in that does it say it was a protest about police brutality? seems to be about MLK not police brutality.
LINK
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A march to demand police reform and justice
More than 200,000 people participated in the original 1963 march, officially titled the "March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom," which was led by Martin Luther King Jr. and others.
This year's March on Washington -- dubbed the "Get Your Knee Off Our Necks" Commitment March -- will reiterate the demands for police reform, criminal justice reform, and racial equality.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:27 pm to HempHead
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I think it is pretty disingenuous of you to act as if there is no significant correlation between that "celebration" and what can be construed as a BLM protest.
You're wasting your time here.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:27 pm to AMS
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he went to march in Washington DC (not minneapolis) for MLK day and wore a shirt you don't like. I would say a march on MLK day is fundamentally a celebration not a protest
I would say the guy could probably get a pass if it wasn't for the wording on a shirt. Wearing a MLK shirt is all good. The quote of "get your knee off our necks" is very clearly related to Chauvin.
Imo it's one thing to say Chauvin was wrong in his actions that day. It's another to say that "Derek Chauvin placed his knee on all black Americans on that day. Now none of us can breathe." The latter is not a person who you could trust to be impartial or non-biased even in the least bit.
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:30 pm to HempHead
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I think it is pretty disingenuous of you to act as if there is no significant correlation between that "celebration" and what can be construed as a BLM protest.
well I don't think MLK day march is a protest about police brutality, which was what the question specifically asked about.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:32 pm to AMS
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well I don't think MLK day march is a protest about police brutality, which was what the question specifically asked about.
What would you say about the above post that classifies the MLK Day march as being about police brutality and reform? Perhaps one could argue that one could participate in the march without endorsing that impetus, but in the case of this juror, that becomes rather flimsy given his garb.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:32 pm to AMS
Switch the races and this juror would be dragged into the streets.
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