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re: Chauvin juror lied during jury selection about attending protests

Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:33 pm to
Posted by Oates Mustache
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:33 pm to
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Ingeniero


That post, my boy, is what's called a BOOM round these parts.
Posted by TigerAlumni2010
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by Relham10
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:39 pm to
Shocked
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:39 pm to
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The first question asked, "Did you, or someone close to you, participate in any of the demonstrations or marches against police brutality that took place in Minneapolis after George Floyd's death?"


quote:

The picture shows Mitchell, 31, standing next to two of his cousins in Washington D.C.



Looks like he's in the clear on question 1.

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"Other than what you have already described above, have you, or anyone close to you, participated in protests about police use of force or police brutality?"


Okay, this one is a little more grey. Technically, the August 28th DC event commemorates MLK's March on Washington in 1963 where his I Have a Dream speech was delivered. Technically, not a protest about police brutality, though there were segments of last year's event that centered on that issue. The event is an annual one though, so hard to characterize it strictly as a protest on policy brutality.


All that said, this juror definitely had some biases.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

Chauvin is going to win on appeal

No, unfortunately he's not
quote:

as well he should


I agree, but it still ain't happenin'
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:44 pm to
If Chauvin can survive in prison long enough he’ll get out and sue the frick out of Minnesota.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:46 pm to
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Okay, this one is a little more grey. Technically, the August 28th DC event commemorates MLK's March on Washington in 1963 where his I Have a Dream speech was delivered. Technically, not a protest about police brutality, though there were segments of last year's event that centered on that issue. The event is an annual one though, so hard to characterize it strictly as a protest on policy brutality.


basically. its gray area but Im def gonna need a bit more evidence to overthrow a trial than a juror with a T-shirt pic in a restaurant on MLK day. especially if the question specifically asked about participation in a police brutality protest.

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All that said, this juror definitely had some biases.


he disclosed his pro-BLM bias.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:49 pm to
what a stupid person. Well that's gonna help cost the taxpayers a new trial.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:56 pm to
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How is it possible they could not have found this our during jury selection?


The defense attorney was practically working solo after so many people refused to be connected to Chauvin's defense.

And typically, it's the prosecutors searching out for activist bias. In this case. the roles were reversed with anti-police activists in charge of the prosecution.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:56 pm to
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Okay, this one is a little more grey.


No fricking shame. Typical leftist
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

Ingeniero

well I was asking about the article you quoted and you were not able to find it in that one so you linked a different one.

quote:

This year's March on Washington -- dubbed the "Get Your Knee Off Our Necks" Commitment March -- will reiterate the demands for police reform, criminal justice reform, and racial equality


im not sure whoever is in charge of "dubbing" things in the eyes of CNN politics op-ed gets to fundamentally change the nature of the MLK march on Washington. but those demands still seem to be about reform, not brutality.
Posted by BayouCatFan
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:06 pm to
You guys are dreaming if you think Chauvin is getting a new trial. Just look at the Scott Peterson trial. A juror on his case lied about not having been a victim of domestic violence and he still hasnt gotten a new trial after 17 years.

Neither Chauvin or Peterson were given fair trials due to the medias involvements, but no appeals court is ever going to throw out their convictions and order new trails.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
19968 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:12 pm to
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All that said, this juror definitely had some biases.


If that pic with the “get off my neck” shirt is real, yes he has obvious specific to the case
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6495 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:15 pm to
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The second one asked, "Other than what you have already described above, have you, or anyone close to you, participated in protests about police use of force or police brutality?"


do we have any evidence that he did not disclose the MLK march above that question?
Posted by HempHead
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:15 pm to
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those demands still seem to be about reform, not brutality.


Perhaps even reform as it relates to brutality!
Posted by HempHead
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:16 pm to
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do we have any evidence that he did not disclose the MLK march above that question?



No. If he did, and still remained on the jury, then that tells us all we need to know.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6495 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:26 pm to
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Perhaps even reform as it relates to brutality!



I dont believe that makes the march a protest about brutality. thats like saying basketball is a game about coaching substitutions. it may be a part but thats not what the sport is about.

I don't think wearing a shirt in a restaurant proves he went to protest at the specific time, location, and section during the portion of the march that addressed brutality.

edit for grammar
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 5:35 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:28 pm to
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I don't think wearing a shirt in a restaurant proves he was went to protest at the specific time, location, and section during that portion of the march.

If this is the kind of brain power that gets through med school, just wow
Posted by jcaz
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:28 pm to
In a fair and just world... he'd be prosecuted for perjury.
But in our world, nothing will happen and he will be made an even bigger hero for lying.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55438 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:29 pm to
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If this is the kind of brain power that gets through med school, just wow



I think law school would have been a better venture. Pedantry and minutia make for rather excellent legal skills, which is why I'm terrible at it.
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