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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:53 am to Aubie Spr96
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Perfect. Of course, you'll never get an answer about this.
crazy4lsu has answered it multiple times
he, obviously, can explain it better, but I suggest looking up "epitope-biased serum antibody response" for your answer
that is, if you are actually interested in a answer
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:56 am to KLSU
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Alot of reports coming out that the vaccine kills your T cell immunity because it out competes it!
I got the vaccine first, then COVID, so this wouldn't apply to me.
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Who knows at this point because it's hard to believe anything you see online any longer..
This is also true.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:57 am to STEVED00
Why won't the CDC come out with the numbers of re-infection? It must not be high at all because if it was that would be all over the news. If they were honest about reinfection numbers it would show NI is doing its job. But we can't have that info can we? Gott follow their science.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:01 am to Salmon
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12+ months and 100 million+ data points
I think we have a pretty good idea by now
So now we need to trust the same people who have mislead us multiple times as it pertains to effectiveness of masks, effectiveness of therapeutics, effectiveness of natural immunity, etc? Is it inconceivable that that same group won’t give us the true picture of what the actual risks of the vaccine actually are?
People bring up Sweden a lot. The Swedes were honest with their population and their population in turn trusted them. It obviously was a success.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:04 am to tigafan4life
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Why won't the CDC come out with the numbers of re-infection? It must not be high at all because if it was that would be all over the news. If they were honest about reinfection numbers it would show NI is doing its job. But we can't have that info can we? Gott follow their science
They don’t want people to get it on purpose. That is the only logical response that is not devious that I can come up with.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 9:06 am
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:12 am to STEVED00
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So now we need to trust the same people who have mislead us multiple times as it pertains to effectiveness of masks, effectiveness of therapeutics, effectiveness of natural immunity, etc? Is it inconceivable that that same group won’t give us the true picture of what the actual risks of the vaccine actually are?
I also have my own anecdotal evidence
and lots of studies have nothing to do with CDC or FDA
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:18 am to Salmon
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I also have my own anecdotal evidence
There is anecdotal evidence for both sides. The part I feel is hard to figure out is when we send these folks on their way after the vaccine and something happens a few days/weeks later, how is that tied together? That was discussed in one of the recent PV videos.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:19 am to STEVED00
These idiots are like Germany invading Russia. If they were just a little honest and likable they’d have a chance to win some people over. The fact that the lies are so blatant even their own supporters are being turned off
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:22 am to STEVED00
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There is anecdotal evidence for both sides.
Sure.
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The part I feel is hard to figure out is when we send these folks on their way after the vaccine and something happens a few days/weeks later, how is that tied together? That was discussed in one of the recent PV videos.
I don't know. I'm not a doctor.
But I am friends with plenty of doctors. And I don't think they are purposely hiding vaccine side effects from me or anyone else.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:22 am to STEVED00
The collapse of TRUTH in our culture is profoundly sad for us. Nobody expects it and nobody gets it. Those of us who still value it are essentially cultural dissidents. We are on the margins of the culture, quaint in our hope for a return of the eternal virtues.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:25 am to Salmon
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But I am friends with plenty of doctors. And I don't think they are purposely hiding vaccine side effects from me or anyone else.
Purposely hiding is NOT what I’m talking about. It is not tying a health issue back to the vaccine. I think that very well could be an issue if the issue doesn’t happen immediately after the vaccine. Unless you make it a priority to actually investigate every health issue where a person was recently vaccinated, do you actually really know the implications?
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 9:27 am
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:29 am to STEVED00
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Unless you make it a priority to actually investigate every health issue where a person was recently vaccinated, do you actually really know the implications?
if people routinely report like medical issues after vaccination, it is a safe assumption that vaccination has something to do with it
so yes, this is how you determine links with these things
this is what VAERS is for, to find patterns to investigate
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:30 am to STEVED00
Complete BS. Total propaganda from our so called leadership. Natural immunity has always been better since the beginning of time. Many more studies, other than the Israeli, that confirm this. News flash, your government lies about everything.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:31 am to STEVED00
Yeah.
So much so that people who received the vaccine still have gotten Covid; some twice.
So much so that people who received the vaccine still have gotten Covid; some twice.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:33 am to Blutarsky
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So much so that people who received the vaccine still have gotten Covid; some twice.
I would love to see these numbers
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:35 am to YNWA
Mostly due to staffing shortages which we had prior to Covid. Be careful how you read data.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:36 am to LSUBoo
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I've got both
Congrats on unnecessarily injecting yourself with an experimental vaccine like a good boy.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:36 am to Salmon
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epitope-biased serum antibody response
Crazy4lsu is obviously extremely intelligent and it's always good to read his contributions.
But do you ever question the wisdom of mass vaccinating for a virus with such a low fatality rate and with a vaccine that does not prevent spread?
I would love to hear crazy4lsu and Geert Vanden Bosche debate this issue as Geert has been sounding an alarm that this mass vaccination policy is dangerous. A quote from him:
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The current situation is highly problematic as ALL segments of the population will dramatically suffer from a situation where anti-S Abs still bind strongly enough to suppress the vaccinee’s innate immune response against non-mutable, highly conserved Coronavirus (CoV) motifs while no longer being able to sufficiently neutralize highly infectious variants. Instead, poor binding affinity of anti-RBD (receptor-binding domain) Abs to Sars-CoV-2 S protein as a result of mutations in the N-terminal domain (NTD) could tip the scale in favor of infection-enhancing Abs and thereby make vaccinees prone to suffering Ab-dependent enhancement (ADE) of Covid-19 disease (1) (Liu et al., 2021; Yahi N et al., 2021).
LINK
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:40 am to Earnest_P
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Congrats on unnecessarily injecting yourself with an experimental vaccine like a good boy.
THIS.
It must've been required for his "dads bring their wife's boyfriends daughter to drag queen story time hour." That's the only type of people I know getting vaccinated. The rest of us know this vaccine and virus are a hoax, and even if you do get the virus you'll probably just get a stuffy nose and natural immunity
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