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re: CDC Still Claim Vaccine is 2x More Effective Than Natural Immunity (Israel Report Ignored)
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:49 am to idsrdum
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:49 am to idsrdum
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But do you ever question the wisdom of mass vaccinating for a virus with such a low fatality rate and with a vaccine that does not prevent spread?
this is the "leaky" vaccine theory?
and no, I don't really question it, considering the whole "leaky" vaccine stuff comes from Marek's disease in chickens, and that vaccine is still 99% effective, despite its "leaky" nature
as for the ADE concerns, I've seen nothing of concern with ADE in regards to the vaccines or COVID
if ADE was a concern, we would see it with COVID infections as well
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:51 am to AUCE05
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Then don't get it. Also, don't cry when a hospital bed goes to someone else.
Are people still pretending hospitals are full? Lol ok.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:05 am to Salmon
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So much so that people who received the vaccine still have gotten Covid; some twice.
I would love to see these numbers
We all would. Go look at the Israel numbers. One health system so all data is available. Israel is literally an enormous study on vaccine efficacy.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:06 am to STEVED00
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Go look at the Israel numbers. One health system so all data is available. Israel is literally an enormous study on vaccine efficacy.
Israel has numbers on fully vaccinated people getting COVID twice after vaccination?
I've seen the Israel studies. I haven't seen the above.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 10:07 am
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:08 am to Salmon
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Israel has numbers on fully vaccinated people getting COVID twice after vaccination?
I've seen the Israel studies. I haven't seen the above.
I was just saying if anyone has that data it would be Israel. The study on natural immunity showed that both did great against Delta but NI just did better.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:10 am to Earnest_P
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Congrats on unnecessarily injecting yourself with an experimental vaccine like a good boy.
I didn't inject it myself. frick that, I hate needles. A nurse did it.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:32 am to LSUBoo
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I got the vaccine first, then COVID,
Are they writing of your very rare situation in medical journals?
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:50 am to Salmon
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this is the "leaky" vaccine theory?
and no, I don't really question it, considering the whole "leaky" vaccine stuff comes from Marek's disease in chickens, and that vaccine is still 99% effective, despite its "leaky" nature
It's way more than the "leaky vaccine theory". His main message is that the more we implement mass vaccinations the more pressure is placed on the virus to increase infectiousness which will eventually lead to vaccine resistant variants. Check out his website or watch an interview to see for yourself. No idea if he is correct but what he says, although quite disturbing, makes sense.
I'm glad there are people like you who are able to trust the medical establishment so fully. Hope you can also appreciate us skeptics who balance things out a bit.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:52 am to idsrdum
trust the science
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:54 am to Cosmo
I will never not upvote her. Ever
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:56 am to STEVED00
another -37 in the hospitals, 952 total now.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:57 am to GRTiger
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Are they writing of your very rare situation in medical journals?
They actually have. It’s in the original post I made.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:58 am to bbap
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another -37 in the hospitals, 952 total now.
Funny how the Tuesday bump that happened yesterday is still a real thing.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:59 am to Damone
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I don’t really care about the natural immunity folks, it’s the vehement anti-vaxers who are the problem.
i know this is a difficult thing for you to accept, but those without the vaccine don’t give a flying frick what you care about. sorry, not sorry
Posted on 9/29/21 at 12:00 pm to GRTiger
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Are they writing of your very rare situation in medical journals?
I have two interviews lined up next week.
Or maybe the vaccine does a shite job of stopping people from getting infected with variants? I believe it helped reduce the severity, but that's anecdotal only as I obviously don't know personally what it's like to get COVID before having the vaccine.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 12:29 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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My expectation is that Delta is the "final boss" of COVID where it has reached max transmissibility. The naturally acquired immunity gained from the first three waves will be enough to keep large outbreaks from happening. This is how novel viruses have become endemic viruses throughout human history. The are over 200 respiratory viruses in endemic circulation, all were novel at some point, and likely killed people, but only cause colds now.
This is more or less what several ID docs have said at the hospital I work at.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 1:27 pm to Klark Kent
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quote: I don’t really care about the natural immunity folks, it’s the vehement anti-vaxers who are the problem. i know this is a difficult thing for you to accept, but those without the vaccine don’t give a flying frick what you care about. sorry, not sorry
This is so much more than just a discussion about a vaccine. We shut the world down over a relatively mild yet highly contagious man made virus. We have people saying we need to vaccinate EVERYONE in order to be SAFE which is just total BS and anyone with any sense gets that. Covid is NOT Polio and even if it was achieving the vaccination rates that people say we need is totally unattainable
Posted on 9/29/21 at 3:30 pm to STEVED00
The CDC has continued to prove the department is worthless.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 3:32 pm to STEVED00
The CDC only exists now to push vaccine and be some kind of ministry of truth. They’re been pushing bull shite “sCiEnCe” for years.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 3:38 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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You are a useful idiot that thinks the authoritarian policies stop right before they reach you, and people like you are always wrong. History proves it.
You hit the nail on the head. By the time it actually hits home with something that these idiots care about it'll be too late.
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