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re: CDC discloses number of safety studies showing DTaP vaccines don't cause autism

Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:50 am to
Posted by LSUMJ
BR
Member since Sep 2004
20930 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:50 am to
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ey are scum because they don't BLINDLY accept big pharma's claim that their drug that they get paid for is safe and want to do actual safety studies? Yeah, we've never been burned by this type of thinking before in the past. Folks, you are mindless lemmings unwilling to have an open mind and continue with caution and instead blindly follow the orders of doctors that get paid by big corporations to inject substances that are known to cause brain inflammation and are physically toxic to your body. Go for it. I am just trying to get you to think about it.


But Karen and they stay at home mom brigades on Facebook, THEY known the science
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8592 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:51 am to
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you've proven nothing and it doesn't prove that vaccines are safe.


That's not how studies work. A scientific study is not designed to prove anything, it is designed to disprove.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13640 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:52 am to
The stupidity in the argument of autism diagnoses going up is as stupid as the rallying cry that somehow cancer incident rates are skyrocketing beyond comprehension. You can choose to ignore the fact that how diagnoses are made has changed or simply continue to make claims that incident rates are skyrocketing.

This is like with Covid-19. No shite the confirmed cases are going to go up when you actually start testing for it.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:52 am to
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So, drug manufacturers should not have to prove that their drugs are safe before they hit the market? In what universe would this be acceptable?


You have to be trolling. I know some very dumb people exist in this world, but usually they can't work computers or the internet well enough to be here unless they stick to the rant/SECrant.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
9250 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:55 am to
It’s not about blindly trusting a corporation. It’s about the fact that there is not a single peer reviewed study which finds a statistically significant link between vaccinations and autism. Not 1 (to my knowledge). If you have one, post it and I’ll consider it with as open of a mind as possible. But I’ve asked multiple anti vaxers for that link multiple times and I’ve never received one.

Also, this...
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Did you know that 73% of children that die of SIDs had a vaccine within 1 day of dying?
Is just flat out fricking wrong. I hope someone lied to you about this number and you were too gullible to question it. Because the only other explanation is that you are lying about it. And if you are doing that to either win an argument or to just troll on-the-fence parents, then you need to have the internet taken away from you. That’s a fricked up lie to perpetuate.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8592 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:57 am to
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You have to be trolling


I doubt he is. I have anti-vaxers in my family. They spout the same nonsense from the same ImRight.com websites. They seek out articles that align with their beliefs and hold real strong.

It is made even more odd in that that side of my family is huge, we were all vaccinated (all of my sibilings/cousins), and no one has autism.

In fact the only anecdotal story about the topic I have is that my Uncle contracted the measels when he was a toddler. Due to the fever that came with it, he had some fairly severe brain damage. He is now mentally challenged.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 11:58 am
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
9250 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:01 pm to
Drug manufactures (including vaccine producers), have to test their drug on a sample of potential users before it becomes available to the broader population (called a clinical trial). If vaccines caused autism, it would show up in clinical trials. That it doesn’t is exactly the proof you are claiming we lack.

Here’s the process: Trigger warning for you: it’s a CDC link
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Clinical development is a three-phase process. During Phase I, small groups of people receive the trial vaccine. In Phase II, the clinical study is expanded and vaccine is given to people who have characteristics (such as age and physical health) similar to those for whom the new vaccine is intended. In Phase III, the vaccine is given to thousands of people and tested for efficacy and safety.

Many vaccines undergo Phase IV formal, ongoing studies after the vaccine is approved and licensed.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
11228 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:06 pm to
I’m putting together an elite team to hunt down Bigfoot. We could use your impressive intelligence. You in?
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
7777 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:19 pm to
It's not vaccines.

But someone should look at ultrasounds.

You used to get one or two ultrasounds when pregnant.

Now many women get a bunch. For vanity reasons not medical reasons.

Just so they can post on their social media like it's a Polaroid.

Generally safe but why bombard the fetus with high frequency sound waves if not necessary.

Vaccines....good.
Ultrasound...one and done unless medically necessary.
Posted by LilWezyAna
BR
Member since Feb 2016
3191 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:21 pm to
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So, drug manufacturers should not have to prove that their drugs are safe before they hit the market?

They go through several trials and countless months of testing before even hitting clinical trials. Even the most pro-vaccine people can admit that there are very very rare adverse reactions to the vaccines including anaphylaxis or fall related injuries if syncopal after the vaccines, but there is literally zero evidence that any vaccine causes autism
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
25211 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:23 pm to
1/36 is a highly suspect number. A lot goes into that rise and a big chunk of autism is probably a more liberal definition on what puts someone on the spectrum compared to prior years. Also some of that increase is probably due to vaccines but because they are allowing weaker genes to continue.
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8881 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:31 pm to
You seriously need help

VACCINES DO NOT CAUSE AUTISM

-3rd year medical student
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
8393 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:58 pm to
They also lump the entire spectrum into autism now instead of having other categories like Aspergers. People would ignore that to promote their stupid agenda though would they?
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:58 pm to
It's been studied and there is also no link.

It's genetic, assigned from conception unfortunately.

As others have stated it only bloomed because it started to get studied and described which helps expand the diagnosis.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69576 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:59 pm to
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-3rd year medical student


Aka a student
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13789 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:01 pm to
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for herd immunity. That is almost unattainable so it is not a realistic option.

The response to this is quite simple. You are wrong. Your position is factually and scientifically incorrect. You simply do not know what you are talking about.
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
8393 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:03 pm to
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I often times feel like you can look at one parent and see a correlation, but that obviously is BS science


Because people call everything whatever the “buzz” word is recently. Fact is there are just a lot of ugly, low intelligence people having ugly, low intelligence kids.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20741 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:24 pm to
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The near eradication of those diseases can also be attributed to sanitation and nutrition.


Odd statement considering the places the diseases made a significant comeback are all first world little hubs of antivaxxers especially the west coast of the US. You know, the place that thinks they’re better than the rest of us bc they yoga and eat kale chips.
Posted by Sisyphus
Member since Feb 2014
2011 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:50 pm to
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CDC discloses number of safety studies showing DTaP vaccines don't cause autism
...and the number is:

ZERO

They literally have no proof, yet they continue to claim them as safe. As the number of childhood mandated vaccines continue to rise, so does the autism rate. 1 in 36 children born this year in the USA will develop autism.

This is a true epidemic and people are too damn stubborn or closed minded to even consider the possibility.
LINK




Normally I don't say anything to insult anyone on here but anti-vaxxers are a danger to society.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 1:52 pm
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21814 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:52 pm to
Better warsh your meats. Put dem Dawn Soaps on dem.
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