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Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:28 am to drdoct
193 RIGHT now. What about tomorrow, next week etc. Point is that number needs to be as low as possible if those spaces are needed . 36 year old plant worker caught it in my hometown . Spent 3 days in hospital but is recovering now . Can happen to anybody
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:29 am to Bear88
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Can happen to anybody
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36 year old plant worker caught it in my hometown . Spent 3 days in hospital
What were his underlying medical issues?
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:30 am to The Pirate King
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For the narrative that this is only affecting old people and everyone else is fine.
So, 62% are above the age of 54?
Also, I think you've confused the concept of people dying with people being infected. I don't think many believed that young people can't be infected. It's that the old people who get it are at much greater risk of not being able to recover from it. However, the data you posted does show that young people seem to get infected less.
Your post seems to be an example of your emotion getting in the way of logically analyzing the statistics. You took a strawman of young people won't get infected, and ran with an argument against it. Meanwhile, the data you posted pretty much solidifies the existing belief that young people are much less at risk.
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:30 am to Ghost of Colby
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Hospitalized” is a broad term. A lot of the early cases could have been admitted as a precaution as cases started popping up around the country.
This. We had a guy in our hospital in his early 30s who is a vaper (spelling?) and had an atypical pneumonia and fever. He was admitted to icu and put in a negative pressure room although he at no point was remotely critically ill.
This post was edited on 3/19/20 at 8:32 am
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:31 am to Hulkklogan
It’s very few people under 50
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:31 am to tgrbaitn08
Absolutely none according to people I talked to that know him personally
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:31 am to Hulkklogan
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The point of looking at the age breakdown is to say that it's not just old people being hospitalized. This is not just affecting old people. Its causing people of many age groups to be hospitalized, so stay the frick indoors and stop spreading the virus.
I’ve left my house twice briefly since Friday and neither time did I come close to having contact with anyone.
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:32 am to Hulkklogan
How about, if you’re afraid of catching the virus YOU stay indoors?
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:32 am to Hulkklogan
You can be cautious and not spread the virus and yet remain in reality.
Of course at the onset you're going to get a LOT of people hospitalized just due to having many people in that group without immunity. How many of those were cancer patients or people with Aids? Better yet, of the people who were hospitalized, how many have been to the hospital for treatment over the last year? Things like this would help to get a grasp of what we're dealing with.
Instead we see the need for panic and hysteria. 38% sure sounds bad until you realize the numbers of the samples and how little that really is.
Of course at the onset you're going to get a LOT of people hospitalized just due to having many people in that group without immunity. How many of those were cancer patients or people with Aids? Better yet, of the people who were hospitalized, how many have been to the hospital for treatment over the last year? Things like this would help to get a grasp of what we're dealing with.
Instead we see the need for panic and hysteria. 38% sure sounds bad until you realize the numbers of the samples and how little that really is.
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:33 am to Bear88
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Absolutely none according to people I talked to that know him personally
Good for him, and he didn’t die as a bonus
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:39 am to drdoct
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Instead we see the need for panic and hysteria. 38% sure sounds bad until you realize the numbers of the samples and how little that really is.
But the numbers are misleading. The percentage hospitalized is a subset of the people with the virus.
The majority of the people that have the virus don't get hospitalized.
This study included data from ~2500 patients with known ages. Then the hospitalization breakdown came from a subset of 508 patients.
So, almost 2000 patients in their data set were not hospitalized.
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:40 am to The Pirate King
Add another to the list of panicky soccer moms
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:45 am to Bear88
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You don’t think young/ school age kids have parents? Many youth live with grandparents . Get your head out of the sand
You think kids that live with their grandparents are the ones that are out partying right now in large groups? If they are the grandparents are asking to get sick. Or that young parents with kids are worried?
You need to wake up to reality and stop fear-mongering.
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:46 am to The Pirate King
And...
1. Were there pre-existing conditions? A 20 something year old meth head was hospitalized. That person isn't indicative of all 20 somethings.
2. What percentage of that group were above 50? I mean is 98% of them are over the age of 50, and there is one 21 year old, then that data is not a good representation of that age range.
3. What percentage of those needed a ventilator or an ICU room?
As Mark Twain noted (paraphrasing)...There are lies, damn lies, and then there os statistics.
In short, more info is needed. Peace.
1. Were there pre-existing conditions? A 20 something year old meth head was hospitalized. That person isn't indicative of all 20 somethings.
2. What percentage of that group were above 50? I mean is 98% of them are over the age of 50, and there is one 21 year old, then that data is not a good representation of that age range.
3. What percentage of those needed a ventilator or an ICU room?
As Mark Twain noted (paraphrasing)...There are lies, damn lies, and then there os statistics.
In short, more info is needed. Peace.
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:46 am to Centinel
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I'd prefer you to link the actual study or scientific paper.
Here you go. How do you plan on spinning it/moving the goalposts now?
It definitely shows that risk increases with age, but young people aren't invulnerable to it.
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As of March 16, a total of 4,226 COVID-19 cases had been reported in the United States, with reports increasing to 500 or more cases per day beginning March 14 (Figure 1). Among 2,449 patients with known age, 6% were aged =85, 25% were aged 65–84 years, 18% each were aged 55–64 years and 45–54 years, and 29% were aged 20–44 years (Figure 2). Only 5% of cases occurred in persons aged 0–19 years.
Among 508 (12%) patients known to have been hospitalized, 9% were aged =85 years, 26% were aged 65–84 years, 17% were aged 55–64 years, 18% were 45–54 years, and 20% were aged 20–44 years. Less than 1% of hospitalizations were among persons aged =19 years (Figure 2). The percentage of persons hospitalized increased with age, from 2%–3% among persons aged =9 years, to =31% among adults aged =85 years. (Table).
Among 121 patients known to have been admitted to an ICU, 7% of cases were reported among adults =85 years, 46% among adults aged 65–84 years, 36% among adults aged 45–64 years, and 12% among adults aged 20–44 years (Figure 2). No ICU admissions were reported among persons aged =19 years. Percentages of ICU admissions were lowest among adults aged 20–44 years (2%–4%) and highest among adults aged 75–84 years (11%–31%) (Table).
Among 44 cases with known outcome, 15 (34%) deaths were reported among adults aged =85 years, 20 (46%) among adults aged 65–84 years, and nine (20%) among adults aged 20–64 years. Case-fatality percentages increased with increasing age, from no deaths reported among persons aged =19 years to highest percentages (10%–27%) among adults aged =85 years (Table) (Figure 2).
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:50 am to TH03
9 between 20-64. What a bullshite range to give a % on
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:50 am to The Pirate King
they are definitely trying to skew some data here in the hopes young people start taking it more seriously. 
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:50 am to TH03
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Here you go.
Thanks, but you're a bit late. Others have already posted it.
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ow do you plan on spinning it/moving the goalposts now?
I don't? I wanted the actual report. Not another spin story from the media. Someone was nice enough to provide it.
Sorry I ruined your white knight attempt though.
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:52 am to More beer please
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9 between 20-64. What a bullshite range to give a % on
It was nine out of a subset of 44.
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