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re: CDC: 38% of coronavirus hospitalizations are age 20-54

Posted on 3/19/20 at 7:43 am to
Posted by reverendotis
the jawbone of an arse
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 7:43 am to
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between 20 and 54


shite metrics are shite
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
16028 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 7:43 am to
“Hospitalized” is a broad term. A lot of the early cases could have been admitted as a precaution as cases started popping up around the country.

That age group also has a higher number of cases.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 7:46 am to
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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a study that said about 38 percent of the 508 patients being hospitalized in the country are between 20 and 54, the New York Times reported. About 20 percent of patients, including those in intensive care, were between 20 to 44, the report said.


This is very misleading. The vast majority of these hospitalizations are likely in the 40-54 age range. They're just trying to scare the younger population into self-quarantine.

Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6387 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 7:47 am to
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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a study that said about 38 percent of the 508 patients being hospitalized in the country are between 20 and 54, the New York Times reported. About 20 percent of patients, including those in intensive care, were between 20 to 44, the report said.


LINK

For the narrative that this is only affecting old people and everyone else is fine.


Hospital that aren't that busy could be keeping moderately sick patients overnight.
Their data is incomplete and that's the whole problem with this mess
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 7:47 am to
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For the narrative that this is only affecting old people and everyone else is fine.


Soooo not even 50%? Lol
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24485 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 7:50 am to
Furthermore, no one has ever said it doesn’t affect young people. It does, in a very small percentage.

But you can’t wreck a society over bullshite like this. Calling young asymptomatic people the ‘spreaders’ is bullshite. You know what else the young people are? They are our employees and they are our healthy population that needs to be working and living to get us through this.

This disease shouldn’t be about quarantining young people, it should be about quarantining anyone over 60.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25964 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 7:50 am to
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Here’s the CDC link


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As of March 16, a total of 4,226 COVID-19 cases had been reported in the United States, with reports increasing to 500 or more cases per day beginning March 14 (Figure 1). Among 2,449 patients with known age, 6% were aged =85, 25% were aged 65–84 years, 18% each were aged 55–64 years and 45–54 years, and 29% were aged 20–44 years (Figure 2). Only 5% of cases occurred in persons aged 0–19 years.

Among 508 (12%) patients known to have been hospitalized, 9% were aged =85 years, 26% were aged 65–84 years, 17% were aged 55–64 years, 18% were 45–54 years, and 20% were aged 20–44 years. Less than 1% of hospitalizations were among persons aged =19 years (Figure 2). The percentage of persons hospitalized increased with age, from 2%–3% among persons aged =9 years, to =31% among adults aged =85 years. (Table).

Among 121 patients known to have been admitted to an ICU, 7% of cases were reported among adults =85 years, 46% among adults aged 65–84 years, 36% among adults aged 45–64 years, and 12% among adults aged 20–44 years (Figure 2). No ICU admissions were reported among persons aged =19 years. Percentages of ICU admissions were lowest among adults aged 20–44 years (2%–4%) and highest among adults aged 75–84 years (11%–31%) (Table).

Among 44 cases with known outcome, 15 (34%) deaths were reported among adults aged =85 years, 20 (46%) among adults aged 65–84 years, and nine (20%) among adults aged 20–64 years. Case-fatality percentages increased with increasing age, from no deaths reported among persons aged =19 years to highest percentages (10%–27%) among adults aged =85 years (Table) (Figure 2).




The equals signs were converted from "less than or equal to" and "greater than or equal to" signs, usually talking "less than" for younger ages, and greater than for 85 yrs old.




So, looking at the numbers from the CDC link, it's pretty clear that the media sensationalized those numbers. Of the subset of people that have been hospitalized, 20% of them have been in the 20-44 year old range, with an additional 18% being in the 45-54 age range. Only 2-4% of the subset of people that have been sent to the ICU have been between the ages of 20-44.

Probably grouped 20-44 because there were low numbers to group them by tens.
This post was edited on 3/19/20 at 8:28 am
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53610 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 7:52 am to
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Wtf are the similarities between a 20 year old and 54 year old. That’s 3 generations between that age group


Muh feelings as opposed to actual science.
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
10263 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 7:52 am to
What percent of people are age 20-54 as opposed to 55+. Also how many of those 20-54 people are dying?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 7:55 am to
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So what you're saying is that this mostly affects the elderly?

What happens when the healthcare system gets so overwhelmed that the healthy people who can beat it with the right treatment aren’t able to get said treatment?
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
15419 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 7:57 am to
I wonder when they have these “secret meetings” to tell hospitals to keep some younger people if they can and news outlets to push that narrative to scare young people into following protocols . Some of you seem to think you know everything all agencies are trying to do and coming up with all these conspiracy theories
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
27002 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 7:58 am to
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The CDC isn’t putting out fake numbers.

They aren’t fake numbers. The numbers just represent a self-selecting population of more serious cases.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
173792 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 7:59 am to
But why would fox news be pushing a narrative against President Tanning booth?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42775 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:02 am to
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I have always thought we had a somewhat educated prideful nation


I did too. But I also deal with mostly college educated, high skill people. That absolutely warps my view but doesn’t completely insulate me from idiots
This post was edited on 3/19/20 at 8:03 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117275 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:03 am to
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For the narrative that this is only affecting old people and everyone else is fine.


aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnndddddddddddddddddd??????????


people with underlying health issues or compromised immune systems
Posted by JCinBAMA
North of Huntsville
Member since Oct 2009
18425 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:04 am to
Sounds like its done mutated, to take out the lazy and
crazy.
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
34987 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:05 am to
Yeah and what percentage of the younger demographic being hospitalized have underlying conditions? Simply including ages doesn’t tell the full story.

Obesity is what is going to frick over a lot of Americans.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
15419 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:07 am to
Most 20 year olds don’t have underlying conditions . A middle school student in Alabama has it . They may/may not require more intensive care than a 60 year old but they are catching it and potentially spreading it to others who may . Think that is the point. Most young people think they can’t/ won’t catch it and that is simply not true
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24485 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:09 am to
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They may/may not require more intensive care than a 60 year old but they are catching it and potentially spreading it to others who may . Think that is the point. Most young people think they can’t/ won’t catch it and that is simply not true


Will someone explain what old people young people give it to? How many old people do college students come into contact with on a weekly basis? This is such a lie. They can’t see grammie for 2 months? Oh nooooooo!!!!!

Young people are giving it to young people. Stop your narrative.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17803 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:10 am to
Coincidentally, 38% of people aged 20-54 are pussies
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