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re: Catholics to excommunicate priests who follows Washington law about reporting child abuse
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:27 am to jizzle6609
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:27 am to jizzle6609
quote:Hopefully, you mean rogue. You have to be a cardinal to be rouge.
If I was a priest I would be rouge.
But it is encouraging to see that someone has the character to step outside of the human fabricated artificial administration of the relationship between God and His people. There is no brokerage scheme outlined in the actual Word.
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Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:27 am to jizzle6609
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Who wouldnt want to go to that church? I agree with yall in theory, yalls churches sound more fun but I am not here for fun. I am here for the Lord
Nah, you are here to judge others. You aren't even judging different religions but judging those who follow the same God.
How dare you say you are "here for the Lord" in the same statement that you choose spiteful words and judgment.
Pathetic.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:29 am to BlackAdam
quote:
While there was a misguided desire to avoid scandal, there was not a widespread coverup. THe Church was trusting the science,
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:33 am to 777Tiger
Yep. "Sunlight is the best disinfectant" ~Louis Brandeis.
I cannot see how anyone could be against reporting child abuse, or, frankly any crime admitted to in a confessional. The religious beliefs of a criminal should not supersede the rights of the victims and society.
I cannot see how anyone could be against reporting child abuse, or, frankly any crime admitted to in a confessional. The religious beliefs of a criminal should not supersede the rights of the victims and society.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:33 am to jizzle6609
quote:there are many priests that do this - I’ve known a few that have gone to police
I wouldnt go to the police but I sure as hell am telling all the undesirables around town about the pedophile that lives in the town and let them do with that information as they wish.
None of them will ever be a bishop (ironically they don’t want to be)
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:34 am to Scruffy
quote:
I will ask this question again, if we are demanding that priests be a mandated reporter for the safety of children, why are lawyers exempt?
Why shouldn’t they be forced to divulge information that they are told?
This is what I’m trying to wrap my head around. My understanding is that attorney-client privilege and doctor-patient confidentiality do not apply to knowledge of future crimes/harm to others.
I’m less clear on the following:
- Under current rules of the Catholic Church, can a priest divulge information heard in confession that would prevent a future crime?
- Does the Washington law require reporting of all child abuse or just future crimes?
There’s another layer to this, in that child abuse is different from a lot of other crimes. If someone confesses to a priest, lawyer, or psychiatrist that they robbed a bank, I’m not sure that confession is necessarily a strong indicator that they’re going to rob another bank tomorrow. But if someone confesses that they’ve been abusing a child, I think it’s reasonable to assume (or at minimum be highly concerned) that they will continue to do so.
It’s not black & white I suppose - someone confessing to abusing a child 10 years ago is a lot different than confessing to abusing a child yesterday, especially if that child is still under their care.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:34 am to Ingeniero
Washington Govt knows good and well the Catholic church’s stance on this. This is simply a way for them to make being a Catholic Priest illegal.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:35 am to lostinbr
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Under current rules of the Catholic Church, can a priest divulge information heard in confession that would prevent a future crime?
No. They can’t. And that’s the problem.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:37 am to bulletprooftiger
quote:innocent until proven guilty - in other words that person in the confessional is not a criminal yet
The religious beliefs of a criminal should not supersede the rights of the victims and society.
This post was edited on 5/7/25 at 11:39 am
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:38 am to Sterling Archer
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These people are the scum of the earth
If you’re referring to those who attention whored themselves writing a law that is both unconstitutional and unnecessary I agree with you.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:39 am to lostinbr
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Under current rules of the Catholic Church, can a priest divulge information heard in confession that would prevent a future crime?
Nope. There are no exceptions for things disclosed during confession.
This post was edited on 5/7/25 at 11:40 am
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:39 am to AbitaFan08
quote:it’s not because the priest cannot assume a crime will happen based off of past actions
And that’s the problem.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:41 am to GreenRockTiger
Why would someone seek confession and absolution for something they didn't do?
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:45 am to STEVED00
quote:They can easily jail priests based on accusations. This is their door to do it, eventually it will expand to all crimes.
Washington Govt knows good and well the Catholic church’s stance on this. This is simply a way for them to make being a Catholic Priest illegal.
This has nothing to do with child abuse and everything to do with athiests punishing religion.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:45 am to bulletprooftiger
quote:not sure, why would they?
Why would someone seek confession and absolution for something they didn't do?
But if you go to confession that does not make you a criminal - that is proven in a court of law, not by a Catholic priest
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:46 am to lsupride87
I’m not Baptist but thanks for reading
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:47 am to GreenRockTiger
quote:
But if you go to confession that does not make you a criminal
not yet
we're working on it
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:47 am to SoFla Tideroller
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How else was the church centuries ago going to blackmail parishioners into buying their own forgiveness and salvation?
But but but
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:49 am to Sterling Archer
Admittedly I haven’t even looked at this thread but how on earth would this be enforceable? It’s not like there’s a recording of what goes on so it’d be awfully hard to prove other than a potential criminals word.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:49 am to Pettifogger
quote:just throw the constitution out the window, then
we're working on it
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