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re: Can’t stop thinking about work in the middle of the night.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 9:57 am to Giantkiller
Posted on 1/17/24 at 9:57 am to Giantkiller
Evan Williams works.
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:00 am to Bama and Beer
quote:
Is money worth your mental health?
Being broke might be even worse for your health
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:03 am to Giantkiller
This chick I used to shack up with told me I’d wake her up cussing my employees in my sleep. 
I got out of construction.
I got out of construction.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:20 am to Giantkiller
I do the same stuff. A couple puffs of the devil's lettuce right before bed helps me.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:23 am to Giantkiller
quote:Sounds like you are a driven person. I've always been the same way, but like you said - it comes in waves. Like if I'm leading some high pressure project, yeah sure I won't sleep as well. But I would have trouble slowing down my brain enough to even fall asleep initially.
It doesn’t affect my ability to fall asleep but it is almost always the reason I wake up at 3:15am, coupled with tossing and turning until the alarm goes off at 5:30.
Anybody else ever felt like that, who may have some pointers on how to manage it?
What I've done for years that works well for me: read fiction. And not via a Kindle (backlit reading sources are proven to stimulate your brain). I read at night for 5 mins and I'm out. If I wake up (which happens alot), I just turn on the light dimly and read some more. Works well. It helps me best to read books that have lots of outdoor activity, like CJ Boxe's Joe Pickett series set in Wyoming. I get my brain thinking about riding horses or camping in the Tetons and sleep comes easily.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:33 am to jamiegla1
quote:
gotcha. Do you do industrial construction?
Some. Mostly commercial but some light industrial.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:37 am to Giantkiller
Couple of suggestions:
~Keep a notepad by your bed and write down thoughts you come with up that you're afraid you may not remember in the morning.
~Don't look at the clock when you wake up.
~Keep a notepad by your bed and write down thoughts you come with up that you're afraid you may not remember in the morning.
~Don't look at the clock when you wake up.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:37 am to Giantkiller
pretty normal to think about work after work, especially if you're a pretty big cog in the wheel.But every night is not good
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:39 am to Giantkiller
quote:
pointers on how to manage it?
Step 1: Get out of bed.
Step 2: Get lube.
Step 3: FAP
Step 4: Go to sleep.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:12 am to Magnus
Good advice on here.
I went through work stress killing my sleep a few years ago and I still have issues from time to time.
The OT Lounge actually helped a bunch. Threads like this and the sense of community on TD really took my mind in a direction where my work stress battle in the wee hours was winnable. I made a rule that if I tried for 30 minutes in the dark and could not calm down enough to get back to sleep, I would get up and browse the interwebs.
There were several posts in this same work stress / cruddy job vein on the OT. Just as above, some chimed in with its just not worth it. While I agree about the mental damages and adverse health effects, sometimes you just can't walk away from crappy jobs due to other responsibilities.
1. Shift to a different gig as others have mentioned.
2. Near term, try to go right back to sleep after you get up to drain the main vein. NO iPad, NO phone, think about a something good...not that evil work deadline.
I feel for ya. My situation was the one of the toughest things I have ever faced, and it's not over yet. If I suffer poor health effects in the next few years, I will know the root cause.
I went through work stress killing my sleep a few years ago and I still have issues from time to time.
The OT Lounge actually helped a bunch. Threads like this and the sense of community on TD really took my mind in a direction where my work stress battle in the wee hours was winnable. I made a rule that if I tried for 30 minutes in the dark and could not calm down enough to get back to sleep, I would get up and browse the interwebs.
There were several posts in this same work stress / cruddy job vein on the OT. Just as above, some chimed in with its just not worth it. While I agree about the mental damages and adverse health effects, sometimes you just can't walk away from crappy jobs due to other responsibilities.
1. Shift to a different gig as others have mentioned.
2. Near term, try to go right back to sleep after you get up to drain the main vein. NO iPad, NO phone, think about a something good...not that evil work deadline.
I feel for ya. My situation was the one of the toughest things I have ever faced, and it's not over yet. If I suffer poor health effects in the next few years, I will know the root cause.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:27 am to DarthGadget
The work ptsd continues long after retirement{20 years}.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:27 am to Giantkiller
Easy answer for me is playing a tv show or movie I’ve watched 1000 times. The trick is to play it on your phone and rest it in your night stand. Put on subtitles as well. You won’t make it past 5 minutes.
If you can’t fall asleep on your side this suggestion might not be for you.
If you can’t fall asleep on your side this suggestion might not be for you.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:29 am to Giantkiller
quote:
Can’t stop thinking about work in the middle of the night.
This is not always a bad thing. I think about work, but not in a stressful way. Helps me stay on top of things. I look at it as a positive more than a negative.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:31 am to Giantkiller
Yeah I'm here currently. I've told myself I'm going to work 9 hours and no more during the not busy season.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:47 am to Giantkiller
i dealt with this last year. delved into a bit of alcoholism from it.
i have a mostly stress free job although it can have high demands at times. i WFH and travel a few days out of the month.
but sometimes calls pile up and pile up and then my 2 co-workers (boss and his son, but we 3 make up the leadership of the company) will pull at me for their own various purposes and then get pissed at me because the other one scheduled me to be on something when the other needed me for an ad-hoc call. i just felt like i was worried all day about what i was missing on top of deadlines for nebulous projects.
it affected my marriage and personal life for a while and i lost a lot of nights of sleep. sudden panic attacks and anxiety when i'm one of the easiest going guys you will ever meet. on top of too much alcohol to cope on weeknights. i was never out getting drunk outside the house, but just pouring whiskey over and over at home.
i can't speak to your situation entirely, but i talked with friends.
had a frank conversation with my boss that i am unable to keep up with the pace right now and request that more realistic expectations be made. simple things like "please check my calendar and see if i'm on a call before you call me on the cell to book a time." "look before you send me an invite." "if you see i'm on a call from 1-2 and 2-3, please don't book something for 3-4."
he took it well and i eased out by mid-summer, but i made it abundantly clear that despite the fact i know i have it good, my boss (who is a good friend and second father to me) can ask too much and as much as i'm easy going, i do have a breaking point and he was getting there.
part of that for me was realizing the power of "no." and then realizing i wasn't going to get fired for saying it on occasion.
i have a mostly stress free job although it can have high demands at times. i WFH and travel a few days out of the month.
but sometimes calls pile up and pile up and then my 2 co-workers (boss and his son, but we 3 make up the leadership of the company) will pull at me for their own various purposes and then get pissed at me because the other one scheduled me to be on something when the other needed me for an ad-hoc call. i just felt like i was worried all day about what i was missing on top of deadlines for nebulous projects.
it affected my marriage and personal life for a while and i lost a lot of nights of sleep. sudden panic attacks and anxiety when i'm one of the easiest going guys you will ever meet. on top of too much alcohol to cope on weeknights. i was never out getting drunk outside the house, but just pouring whiskey over and over at home.
i can't speak to your situation entirely, but i talked with friends.
had a frank conversation with my boss that i am unable to keep up with the pace right now and request that more realistic expectations be made. simple things like "please check my calendar and see if i'm on a call before you call me on the cell to book a time." "look before you send me an invite." "if you see i'm on a call from 1-2 and 2-3, please don't book something for 3-4."
he took it well and i eased out by mid-summer, but i made it abundantly clear that despite the fact i know i have it good, my boss (who is a good friend and second father to me) can ask too much and as much as i'm easy going, i do have a breaking point and he was getting there.
part of that for me was realizing the power of "no." and then realizing i wasn't going to get fired for saying it on occasion.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:52 am to 3nOut
Sell everything you have. Buy a farm.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:01 pm to Giantkiller
As I aged, I worried less and less. Whatever happens, happens.
The way I calmed myself down was ask myself one question. Will I still get a paycheck? The answer was always yes .
The way I calmed myself down was ask myself one question. Will I still get a paycheck? The answer was always yes .
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:27 pm to Bama and Beer
quote:
Is money worth your mental health?
The answer is no for me. I was in a similar situation for several years. I finally moved to a new job and took a pay cut. No regrets at all and I sleep like a baby.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:35 pm to Giantkiller
If I eat well, I sleep well.
Eat poorly, sleep poorly....generally.
Eat poorly, sleep poorly....generally.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:44 pm to Giantkiller
quote:
Can’t stop thinking about work in the middle of the night.
This is the "white privilege" that you keep hearing about. It's a product of being a hard worker that actually gives a shite about the work he produces. I have it every night and regardless of how successful I have become, it's always there. Call me soft, but people don't know how to pat themselves on the back, and I'm definitely in that crowd.
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