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re: Can someone please tell me wtf a plant operator is and what they do?

Posted on 7/8/14 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by dafuqusay
Houston
Member since Mar 2014
774 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 2:59 pm to
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From my experiences, it looks like they just sit around, cook, bullshite, complain about their do nothing job and look down on contractors who have the audacity to come in their control room and ask for a simple permit to enter their beloved, autonomous unit.


Ding! Ding! Ding!....We have a winner
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37013 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 3:00 pm to
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the stereotypes operators have gained on this board never cease to amaze me


It cracks me up how much operators are shite on on this board.

I have friends and family that work in plants and always forward emails to me when their plant is hiring operators. I don't have any desire to work in a plant so I always pass, but I typically give it some consideration.

The operators at my brothers plant work 4 days on and 4 days off and make bank. I don't think they work much overtime either. When their shift is supposed to be done, they leave.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20634 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

When you say plants, what exactly does this plant do? If my above assumption is correct, does it have something to do with the extraction of resources? Refining them? I have no idea.


I work at a chemical plant, we take some chemicals like chlorine and run it through the process (heating, cooling, pressure, etc) and create different types chemicals.

quote:

'll assume the operator is the head boss of the plant. From what I undersatnd, this person makes a shite ton of money. What exactly does this job entail? What does the operator do on a day to day basis?


Monitor tanks levels, flow rates, temperatures. Open and close valves and equipment checks. Monitor maintenance, prep equipment and piping for them as well.

I'm not a "typical " operator I that I don't work shift work. I work 4/10s, scheduled off on holidays, and average about 3-400 hrs of OT a year.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37063 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 3:50 pm to
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kingbob


Pretty good post, from what I know (my FIL used to work in environmental in plants). Forgetting lead plants, though.

Also there is usually at least one environmental compliance guy working at most plants. I guess sometimes this person is an engineer, but not always.

From my prospective being a plant operator is a good job if you aren't cut out for college, but still want to make a good living.
Posted by WHATDOINO
Member since Dec 2008
7049 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 10:30 pm to
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kingbob



You made a perfect post. Congrats!

quote:

The operator is not the head boss. Operators "operate" the plant. They monitor how the plant is running and make adjustments to keep it running. They don't do a whole lot most of the time, but they work a lot of hours (people have to man the plan 24 hours/day) and they are really needed if something goes wrong. The plant manager is the boss. 

There are 3 main types of people working at the plant: operators (employed by the plant, make lots of OT), engineers (employed by the plant, make little or no OT and report directly to management), and contractors (construction workers who maintain the plant or build expansions and new units (hired by management but have their own bosses). 
They mostly watch tv screens and monitor the plant's activities. They also check to see if equipment needs to be serviced or replaced. During "turnarounds" (when the plant shuts down for maintenance), they make sure that pipes are cleaned out and that machines are shut down and can't be accidentally turned on while the contractors service the plant. 

Plant workers generally aren't college educated and make a lot more than most college educated people. This breeds a lot of snobbery on both sides. They generally aren't dumb, but they're not exactly einsteins either. They generally have a high mechanical aptitude and lots of field knowledge but aren't exactly "book" smart. 

They pay a lot because the environment is extremely dangerous. If something goes wrong (which does happen), the operators are the first round of defense to stop something catastrophic from happening. It's also work that requires a lot of knowledge to perform well. Also, they work a LOT of OT, often 20 hours or more OT/week.
Posted by WHATDOINO
Member since Dec 2008
7049 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 10:34 pm to
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The typical operator basically is invisible to his family.



this is bullshite for the most part 


the stereotypes operators have gained on this board never cease to amaze me 

a few bad apples seemed to have spoiled the reputation of the industry, at least on this board 



This is correct also. So much misinformation on this board about plant workers from fresh out of school guys that just can't grasp other people can make a comfortable living doing this job.



SO MANY LIES. lol
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49072 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 5:21 pm to
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And why does it suck so bad? That's my main question..I have no idea what these workers actually do. What are their job duties?


I speak for most places except oil rigs. You don't start as an operator. You often start doing unskilled low risk things like Assistant or Helper. This can be cleaning up, refilling shite, etc.
An operator in a modern facility has thousands of hours of on-job and CBT modules(some of these training programs cost 100k) for every thing he's in contact with from the materials properties to the DCS panels he monitors. Theres not a huge risk of physical harm these days due to human error BUT... A dumb arse operator watching his gumbo in the kitchen can miss a warning trip and ruin a batch, paper reel, cause shutdowns etc Aka cost a plant over $1mil by missing a "button press".

They sit at something like this below typically but obviously not dressed like that.
And they are responsible for hundreds of scenarios and many involving sequences protocol etc. Nothing like rocket science but they aren't typically stupid. Ptec degrees from RPCC for example can expedite this progression from entry level plant job.
My credentials: 17 yrs in manufacturing IT and Process control network ops.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 5:25 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78424 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 5:24 pm to
Solid 3 year bump
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49072 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 5:25 pm to
Meant to put in other thread

But it's linked.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 5:26 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70503 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 5:55 pm to
“Plants” are chemical plants and refineries. Most of these chemical plants take some sort of petroleum feed stock (natural gas or oil) and use that to make another product or component like fertilizer, plastics, foam, hydrogen peroxide, liquified gas (oxygen, nitrogen, nitrous, etc), or refined petroleum products like asphault, lube oil, gasoline, diesel, and heating oil.

Operaters make a lot of money because:
A. They work a ton of hours, often on 12 hour shifts, 6 days a week during turnarounds (when plant units are shut down for maintenance).
B. They often work night shifts
C. The work is dangerous because plants have a bad habit of exploding

This is work that is often done by high school grads with associate degrees in PTEC. It mostly consists of watching monitors to ensure processes are running smoothly, and occassionally turning valves when necessary to shut off feeds, take test samples, or restore service.

Plants are basically giant plumbing assemblies filled with explosives, so it’s a pretty technical field.

Plants are mostly located along deep draft ocean ports like along the Mississippi River between BR & Nola, near Mobile, Houston Ship Channel, Corpus Christi, Lake Charles, Los Angeles, and New Jersey.
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 11:50 am
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105307 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 6:26 pm to
So you're telling me there can be Yankee plant operators? Mindblown.
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