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re: Camelback Mountain hiker found dead; I suspected foul play from beginning

Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4684 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:45 pm to
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Phoenix last weekend for a bachelor trip


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hiked Camelback Mountain




You gays have strange bachelor trips.

This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 1:48 pm
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:50 pm to
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No one is reading all that.

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The People


Quit being a bitch.
Posted by Pisgah Pete
Buncombe County
Member since Feb 2021
602 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:54 pm to
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Could you post a map for those of us unfamiliar with the area




OP came up Echo Canyon Trail. OP's pic is from just to the left of the "E" in Echo Canyon Trail on the pic above. Girl's body was found by one of those houses above the word "Paradise" in the pic up against the base of mountain.

My hypothesis is Cop got to top and was disoriented, climbed down Cholla Trail to the left and Uber'd back to parking lot.


Eta: Unless you have some solid off trail experience and bouldering/climbing skills you are not going to get from the top of Camelback back to the parking lot without following the trail, meaning it would have been difficult/near impossible for Cop to get down the same side he came up without OP seeing him. Most logical explanation is he took the other trail down the back side and caught an Uber.
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 2:01 pm
Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1151 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:07 pm to
That is a long romance novel you got there.
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
2374 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:09 pm to
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Most logical explanation is he took the other trail down the back side and caught an Uber.

That’s why I’m so interested to see where the Uber picked him up.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21505 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:09 pm to
Probably wanted to have sex with her in what he thought was an isolated place. Place wasn't as isolated as he thought, with other hikers coming up and down. She refused to "go behind that rock" with him and an argument ensued and they separated.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111169 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:13 pm to
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Edit: The initial reports called it "heat exhaustion."

Definitely some suspicious stuff from the dude you posted, but if she truly went back down around the half way point like you stated when they split up and died of this, not sure how that can be pinned on the dude.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65974 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:13 pm to
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You gays have strange bachelor trips.



Scottsdale isn't a bad place to have a BP at all really. August isn't the best time, though.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111169 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:14 pm to
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I think the guy is just an idiot and she died from the heat. He needs to be hit with something for that kind of negligence though
If she died from the heat, how is he at all responsible?
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
38966 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:23 pm to
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Neither me, nor any of my 7 friends who were with me remember seeing him come back down the trail. I probably only saw 20 other hikers that day, so I would have remembered seeing him come back down the trail.

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I'm convinced that after he proceeded up the mountain past us, he circled back, killed her, dumped her body where it was found (in the backyard of a home at the base of the mountain, which did not appear to be accessible from the mountain side), and then got an Uber back to the bottom of the mountain to try and build an alibi.

if you saw the gal turn around and go back, and you did not see the cop come back down, how could he have gotten past you to catch up with the the girl? And/or if he went down the back side and took an Uber, how could he have caught up with her?
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
2374 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:31 pm to
I also failed to mention that Dizdar has a history of lying to authorities. There was an incident a few years ago at a night club. He was off duty and his “friend” got assaulted. Unclear who assaulted the friend. Cop asked Dizdar for his name. Dizdar told him a fake name and told the officer that Dizdar was not a cop.
Posted by SouthernStyled
Member since Apr 2021
1307 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 3:26 pm to
You sure know a lot about this guy. If he becomes a suspect you may just become one yourself.
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
2374 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 3:29 pm to
Everything I’ve said was either seen firsthand or reported by the news, lol.
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
3721 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 3:39 pm to
Fatty in the red shirt sweated his entire arse off.
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
2374 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 3:46 pm to
He was a goddamned trooper though.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52283 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 3:58 pm to
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Yeah, that's the narrative I always pushed. I even said that leading up to the trip to Phoenix. I can now attest that hot is hot.... and Phoenix was hot as frick.



I've lived in Phoenix for 6 years now, and every time I hear someone from out of state come here and hike outside at 8:00 AM in the morning in July-October, and try to "downplay" the weather by saying its a "dry heat", I just chuckle
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12666 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 3:59 pm to
My buddy had a heat stroke on that trail last year and died. I heard from his brother it happens quite a bit on that one.
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
15922 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 4:01 pm to
It was Colonel Dizdar, with a rope, in the library. You people have no Clue?
Posted by roobedoo
hall summit
Member since Jun 2008
1092 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 4:07 pm to
Your description of events clears him of murder, but convicts him of being a total piece of shite.
Posted by TigerAlum12
Member since May 2019
9 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 4:38 pm to
Even if it was heat stroke, she still ended up buried which is odd
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