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re: California man eliminated by police after ramming emergency vehicles at In-N-Out

Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:12 am to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
72708 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:12 am to
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picking and choosing which laws to enforce is not “protecting”


Protecting citizens means using judgment to address the threat in real time. So spare me the lecture about selective enforcement. This isn’t hand-wringing over jaywalking; it’s stopping a would-be vehicular manslaughter because fatty didn't get his greasy slop fix that day.

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They had plenty of opportunity to box the van in.


Protecting citizens isn’t about fanciful play-by-play scheming; it’s about decisive action to stop the threat now. And sometimes that means taking the shot before there’s time to draw up the blueprint. He drove his vehicle directly at them. He died for doing so.

End of story. Lesson Learned.

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How many cops were needed to empty their clips before the target was subdued?


Police Officers aren’t counting rounds; they’re firing until the threat stops. If that takes an entire magazine, so be it. You don’t pause, reload, and call a tactical meeting when a 2 ton minivan and 400lb slob is barreling towards them.

Critiquing “how many bullets” ignores reality: there are no quotas in these situations. You fire until the danger is over. End of story. The real question isn’t how many bullets, but why anyone would expect cops to treat a weaponized vehicle any differently than a hooded gunman.


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Are you a sexist?


I've been called worse.
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 10:21 am
Posted by Kolbysfan
Member since Jun 2007
2157 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:33 am to
Much to unpack there. Won’t solve much. I’ll say this, I’m not in that position, hopefully never will be. It’s easy to question methods and application of those methods. I struggle though, as a bystander, to understand what I viewed in a 20 second clip of an incident as being appropriate application.

I have an unfavorable opinion of cops, generally speaking. So I will look through a different lens than you and that’s ok.

Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
72708 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:39 am to
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I have an unfavorable opinion of cops, generally speaking. So I will look through a different lens than you and that’s ok.


completely agree

Look, I get it—you watched 20 seconds on your phone and you’re left with more questions than answers. Police Officers are trained to use overwhelming force to neutralize a deadly threat, not to dial up a gentle “pause” button and negotiate with a van. So while your skepticism is understandable, I’ll stand by these officers: they fulfilled the one duty that matters—keeping innocent people alive. And to me, that’s worth every round they fired.
Posted by CSinLC
Member since May 2018
2031 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 11:10 am to
quote:

49ers have disapointed lately





This is why I come here
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
71119 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 11:26 am to
quote:

I struggle though, as a bystander, to understand what I viewed in a 20 second clip of an incident as being appropriate application.



This explains so much.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30201 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 11:49 am to
Wow, that's rough.
Posted by poppa1254
Moody, AL
Member since Jan 2019
552 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 12:08 pm to
Perforated that bastidge!
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38552 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 1:03 pm to
Vehicles kill thousands every year by accident. You don't think they are more than capable of killing someone purposely?
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
18620 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 1:07 pm to
Finally Ca. Getting with the program.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
5989 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

They emptied their clips


MAGAZINES!
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46154 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

I struggle though, as a bystander, to understand what I viewed in a 20 second clip of an incident as being appropriate application.



How would you feel as a bystander if that van ran over your family member while trying to get a burger?

Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6255 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 1:29 pm to
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How many cops were needed to empty their clips before the target was subdued? Sorry, I have a different view than you, that doesn’t make me a “dramatic women”. Are you a sexist?


Right off the bat, anyone who says “they fired too many shots” or calls magazines “clips”, I chalk it up to someone who has zero clue on deadly force policy or law enforcement in general.

They had a community organizer (grift expert) who had a crusade against the police for shooting violent offenders… he accepted the departments offer to put him in a simulation that officers use for training. He shot several unarmed targets and was hyperventilating the whole time. He said he was terrified during the whole training exercise.

Basically, real easy to get up on your high horse when you have zero idea what you’re talking about.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
119863 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 1:49 pm to
Dude had a criminal history going back to 1972...
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 2:03 pm to
Looked like suicide by cop.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16963 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 2:12 pm to
Not one single conservative white person is going to protest or demand an apology or sue.. because we believe that bad people deserve to have consequences brought upon them in accordance with that they deserve.
Posted by CockHolliday
Columbia, SC
Member since Dec 2012
4798 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:40 pm to
Forget Sonic, frickin' around and finding out at In-and-Out is what it's all about!
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89708 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:51 pm to


full video with writeup



Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31805 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:53 pm to
I think they got him...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

. I struggle though, as a bystander, to understand what I viewed in a 20 second clip of an incident as being appropriate application.


Thats how they are trained. They'll get their hand slapped if not, and something bad occurs.

A vehicle is a deadly weapon, the way he used it. Youre wrong in this situation.

Was it overkill? Sure, but thats exactly how they are trained
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9309 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:08 pm to
So the video in the OP was the second burst of shots fired at him?

It was dumb to ram the car trying to push it out of the line and dumber to ram the first cop, but to try to ram another cop twice after already getting fired upon was him just wanting suicide by cop.
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