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re: CA officially abandons plan for high speed rail connecting sf to la

Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by dewster
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:03 pm to
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It’s a one time money drain though


I agree that the upfront costs are staggering.

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It’s not like it would require yearly funding.




Like Amtrak?
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:04 pm to
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Wowwww, this has been like a 15 year project and it’s now up in smoke


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SACRAMENTO, Calif. - California Gov. Gavin Newsom says he's ending the state's effort to build a high-speed rail line between San Francisco and Los Angeles. Newsom said Tuesday in his State of the State address it "would cost too much and take too long" to build the line long championed by his predecessor, Jerry Brown. Latest estimates pin the cost at $77 billion and completion in 2033
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Kinda pissed off tbh


A one year lump sum payment of 77 billion is worth it assuming the rail wouldn’t have high annual maintenance costs.


Are they abandoning high spped rail because they see Hyperloops coming instead?
Posted by GusMcRae
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:05 pm to
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It’s not like it would require yearly funding. Once it is built it is good forever basically, with some very minor upkeep cost


LOLOLOL

Ever heard of Amtrak???
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:05 pm to
You guys don’t seem to understand the 77 billion is a one time cost

It would probably be less than 1 million dollars each year to maintain
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:05 pm to
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If they made sense, there would be billionaires knifing each other in the back to be the first to build one.


There are just billionaires getting richer off the "research" from gov contracts to see if viable
Posted by GusMcRae
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:06 pm to
Then it would operate at a loss in perpetuity.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:07 pm to
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It should go LA to Vegas



But then what will Mater and Pops do when nobody drives through Radiator Springs anymore?
Posted by Demshoes
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:09 pm to
What does mean for the prospects of the Green Train Line from New York to London?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:10 pm to
???

What?

What are the costs besides initial upfront stuff?

There will be one train conductor driving the thing back and forth


His annual salary will be what? 75-80k? Maybe lil more?
Posted by White Roach
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:13 pm to
What would possibly make you think annual maintenance costs on 400 to 450 miles of high speed railbed, locomotives and carriages would be inexpensive? It won't be $77B, but it's going to be a substantial expenditure.

They started in the middle of the route because the terrain was flatter and acquiring right of ways was cheaper, which kind of makes sense. At least until you calculate the demand for high speed rail between Bakersfield and Fresno.

I'm surprised Gavin Newsome had the balls to shut this (allegedly) "environmentally friendly" project down.
Posted by GusMcRae
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:14 pm to
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Wowwww, this has been like a 15 year project and it’s now up in smoke


Another leftist/environmentalist wet dream suffers premature ejaculation.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:20 pm to
How many billions have they already dumped into the project?

Such a waste of taxpayer money. And those green new deal morons want the government to have MORE control over shite like this.

Let this be a lesson for the "rails to replace airplane" fricktards
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 2:22 pm
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:23 pm to
The Boring Company has the solution.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:24 pm to
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Are they abandoning high spped rail because they see Hyperloops coming instead


You mean Teslas in Tunnels

That was seriously the funniest let down ever.
Posted by skullhawk
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:35 pm to
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There will be one train conductor driving the thing back and forth


His annual salary will be what? 75-80k? Maybe lil more?



You believe a 400 mile stretch of track that handles a train going 200 mph will be manned and maintained by a single employee?
Posted by RocketTiger
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:38 pm to
True Detective covered this in season 2. Nothing but fraud.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:41 pm to
High speed rail would work between LA and SF. The demand is there with stops between. The thing is that they don't need to necessary build a high speed rail line. They can instead upgrade current track to reach speeds of 110 mph.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:48 pm to
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Wonder how much they spent on the research and bureaucracy already on this

From the Hoover Institute Of Stanford University:
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After California has spent roughly $5.4 billion, the bullet train is going nowhere fast.




Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:03 pm to
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A one year lump sum payment of 77 billion is worth it assuming the rail wouldn’t have high annual maintenance costs.


AOC... is that you?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:04 pm to
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After California has spent roughly $5.4 billion, the bullet train is going nowhere fast.



About 5 billion eh?

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