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re: Burning question: How did Portuguese evolve as a language distinct from Spanish?
Posted on 5/26/26 at 3:38 pm to TulsaSooner78
Posted on 5/26/26 at 3:38 pm to TulsaSooner78
Kinda like Cajun accents and southern accents.
Pretty much same place but talk just talk a little different
Pretty much same place but talk just talk a little different
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 3:42 pm to TulsaSooner78
Topography and population dispersion explains a lot.
Mountainous border and sparsely populated border region probably account for the cultural isolation.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 3:45 pm to theGarnetWay
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Well, for starters - Belgian isnt a language.
I have been to Belgium.
My understanding is that Flemish is one of the two languages spoken in Belgium, along with French. And Flemish is a dialect of Dutch.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 3:47 pm to TulsaSooner78
My mom's neighbors hosted an exchange student from Spain a couple of years ago. At the time, I was toying around with a foreign language app and was nowhere near conversant with Spanish, but I tried. She was from near Barcelona.
While engaging her several times about the languages and culture of the area, I found that her kitchen table language was Catalan (which I had never even heard of), then Spanish, French, Italian, and English. I was amazed at the 17 year old's grasp of the world.
It is shocking to me that you can drive 100 miles and be in another country and immersed in a different language.
While engaging her several times about the languages and culture of the area, I found that her kitchen table language was Catalan (which I had never even heard of), then Spanish, French, Italian, and English. I was amazed at the 17 year old's grasp of the world.
It is shocking to me that you can drive 100 miles and be in another country and immersed in a different language.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 3:57 pm to diat150
Also Spain has like 4 or 5 languages. Spanish is just the dominant.
Basque is even more different than Portugese, and Catalan is different too.
Basque is even more different than Portugese, and Catalan is different too.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 4:02 pm to F1y0n7h3W4LL
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My mom's neighbors hosted an exchange student from Spain a couple of years ago. At the time, I was toying around with a foreign language app and was nowhere near conversant with Spanish, but I tried. She was from near Barcelona.
While engaging her several times about the languages and culture of the area, I found that her kitchen table language was Catalan (which I had never even heard of), then Spanish, French, Italian, and English. I was amazed at the 17 year old's grasp of the world.
It is shocking to me that you can drive 100 miles and be in another country and immersed in a different language.
Another weird thing about Europe is that there are a few "micro" states like Andorra.
Monaco is the most famous one.
Andorra sits between France and Spain. It is ruled jointly by 2 princes. One is a bishop from Spain, and the other is the president of France.
Another one is Liechtenstein that sits between Switzerland and Austria. It is ruled by a prince. Why not just declare yourself king???
Posted on 5/26/26 at 4:03 pm to Napoleon
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Napoleon
Username checks out.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 4:07 pm to TulsaSooner78
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My understanding is that Flemish is one of the two languages spoken in Belgium, along with French. And Flemish is a dialect of Dutch.
Yes, basically modern Dutch is Flemish.
That was my point. Belgium is between The Netherlands, France and Germany.
So, they didn't end up with their own language - they speak all three neighboring languages - with a Belgian accent, no less.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 4:16 pm to Ace Midnight
Naturally, the O-T would be home to linguistic experts as well.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 4:22 pm to TulsaSooner78
Catalan and especially Basque (isn't even Latin based) are also distinct but they all speak Spanish since they're apart of the Spanish crown.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 4:31 pm to TulsaSooner78
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Andorra sits between France and Spain. It is ruled jointly by 2 princes. One is a bishop from Spain, and the other is the president of France.
The country has two post offices one for France and the other for Spain.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 4:36 pm to diat150
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the centuries-long Christian reconquest
We need to run this back fam.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 4:48 pm to F1y0n7h3W4LL
I think there are a few Occitan speakers in spain as well.
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