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re: Burning question: How did Portuguese evolve as a language distinct from Spanish?

Posted on 5/26/26 at 7:51 pm to
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 7:51 pm to
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It is shocking to me that you can drive 100 miles and be in another country and immersed in a different language.


I can drive a shorter distance to New Orleans and experience the same thing
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 5:51 am to
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I've been obsessed with Basque culture since my 20s. I'm finally getting the opportunity to travel there in October.


That’s awesome! We considered a trip there back in 2021, but decided on Modena instead. Next trip to Spain will for sure include a stop there.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 6:01 am to
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Vulgar Latin



Posted by Pepperoni
Mar-a-Lago
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 6:05 am to
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 7:47 am to
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That’s awesome! We considered a trip there back in 2021, but decided on Modena instead
That's ironic! We originally planned San Sebastian with the second leg of our trip to Parma, Modena, Bologna, & Ravenna. But now it's looking like we're staying in the Basque region for the whole trip, Bilbao, San Sebastian, Getaria, Bayonne, Biarritz, & Saint Jean de Luz as our major hubs.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 8:20 am to
They are different for sure. One only has to look at them to tell the difference. Portugal is an Atlantic country whereas Spain is heavily influenced by the Mediterranean. Portugal is much more influenced by Celtics than Spain. Geography plays a big part as well. The Moors had a hard time spreading any of their culture through the region due to its terrain. If you've ever been you would understand.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9542 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 8:55 am to
National borders and then national radio and later TV.

Only as far back as the 19th century, much of Europe had such strong dialects that someone from Rome would have a tough time communicating with someone from Florence even though they're only a 100 or so miles apart.

Languages, like Italian in this instance, were only spoken in far ranging parts of the country by regular folks after national radio / tv and school teaching standards set by the national government.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87774 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 8:57 am to
My teenage son was a finalist for some Spanish Immersion camp in high school. He came in second so he could not go. They immediacy offered him in Portuguese. He learned it in like a week and was really the only one there fluent.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
66971 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 11:02 am to
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Both languages descend from Vulgar Latin brought by Roman colonizers.

I studied Vulgar Latin in HS

Where yo bitch be, Quintavius?

Whatchu be doin up in my hood, Tiberius?
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
2256 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 2:35 pm to
Portuguese does sound a bit like Russian. I always wondered why. Thanks AI.
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