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re: Buffalo to Milwaukee, “hold my beer” updated, 10 dead, suspect in custody

Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:08 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62583 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:08 pm to
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I say, let’s have at it and see it play out.
you already can. Look at how few shooting happen in Chicago. Toughest gun laws in the nation.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20593 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:14 pm to
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Have a look how well it's worked out for Chicago.

It's been almost a dozen years since that was overturned in the Mcdonald case.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:16 pm to
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you already can. Look at how few shooting happen in Chicago. Toughest gun laws in the nation.


Illinois in general and Chicago also have both liberalized gun laws to a great extent in the past 15 years. They still ban certain semi-automatic guns they deem to be “assault weapons” (as SCOTUS refused to hear the relevant case in 2015) but are those the types of guns normally used in Chicago drive-bys?
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:17 pm to
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It's been almost a dozen years since that was overturned in the Mcdonald case.


What Moar said.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37812 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:29 pm to
I don’t think that’s real bro
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14564 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:31 pm to
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Inner city violence is a problem. You can avoid those areas. Mass shootings at schools, concerts, theaters, food markets, highways, churches, bars, restaurants…those are public places where you SHOULD have no expectation that you’re going to be gunned down.



Your argument is about as illogical as any I have seen by the left in a while. If you live in the inner city, you cannot avoid those areas.. Nobody is forcing anyone to go to those public areas. The right can acknowledge thes mass shootings are wrong and a problem. The left cannot acknowledge they care nothing about inner city killings.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62583 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:37 pm to
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It's been almost a dozen years since that was overturned in the Mcdonald case.
Yep. No crime in Chicago from 1982-2010. It was heavenly.

That said, even today Chicago has everything banners want.

1- waitin period
2- FOID
3- (basically) zero concealed carry.

Clearly the next law will be the one that works.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120223 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:38 pm to
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8 mass shootings with blacks involved in last two months, parade in Wisc with black guy plows thru white people killing 5 white people over 40 injured, etc.



I've noticed there has been more mass shootings by the blacks. In fact, there was a time when you heard about a mass shooting and you just assumed it was a white, but in today's world it can be anyone.

But the media plays a big role in turn people against each other especially these cable network news stations. They all have agendas and they spin news to fit their agenda.

With all that said I think they knew (well assumed) he was a white supremacist because he had the n word written across his gun and he supposedly posted some "white supremacy" and anti-semite things online according to this article.

marca.com
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32740 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:40 pm to
Is corn beef hash a breakfast food? And why is this important to his manifesto

frick this guy, too bad the cops didn’t kill him. He should have been gunned down but he surrendered to them so they couldn’t
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62583 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:42 pm to

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Your argument is about as illogical as any I have seen by the left in a while. If you live in the inner city, you cannot avoid those areas.. Nobody is forcing anyone to go to those public areas. The right can acknowledge thes mass shootings are wrong and a problem. The left cannot acknowledge they care nothing about inner city killings.
I'm trying to figure out why he's OK with ceding entire primarily minority swaths of cities to violence, yet want's other parts of the community to be safe. Seems like a thinly-veiled racist argument to me. Clearly doesn't care about minorities nor their safety.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:48 pm to
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Yep. No crime in Chicago from 1982-2010. It was heavenly.

That said, even today Chicago has everything banners want.

1- waitin period
2- FOID
3- (basically) zero concealed carry.

Clearly the next law will be the one that works.


The numbers don’t indicate Chicago as a hotbed of gun violence (if by “hotbed”, you think it’s a top 5 city).

The Illinois gun homicide rate was 12.1 per 100,000 in 2022 (national average was 12)

LINK

(Before you’re say I’m conflating state with city statistics, note Illinois has 12 million people and 5 million live in the Chicagoland area.)

By comparison, Mississippi’s gun homicide rate was 21 per 100,000.

And the murder rate in Chicago in 2021 was less than Baton Rouge, NOLA, Birmingham, Montgomery, Memphis, and Columbia, South Carolina

LINK
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 10:50 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71760 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:49 pm to
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OweO

quote:

But the media plays a big role in turn people against each other especially these cable network news stations. They all have agendas and they spin news to fit their agenda.

Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120223 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:50 pm to
Is that not a fact?
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8520 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:51 pm to
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With all that said I think they knew (well assumed) he was a white supremacist because he had the n word written across his gun and he supposedly posted some "white supremacy" and anti-semite things online according to this article.


And that’s the only reason the media will talk about it for the next two weeks, and nothing about the young black men that kill each other across this country on a daily basis, mainly because those young black men haven’t had a stable father figure for 3 generations. That’s why crap like this, is bad as it is, is just a small blimp on the radar.
Posted by AcadieAnne
Space Force Cadet 1st Class
Member since May 2019
1790 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:51 pm to
I read a good bit of it. It was clearly written by someone that either completely lacked all critical thinking skills or had some sort of mental defect that made him believe all of the shitposting on the chans. It had sections for memes about each race. Seriously. Memes.

I wish the cops had smoked his stupid arse. They could have said they thought he was reaching for a weapon or something, and I don't think anyone would have questioned it.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31810 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:56 pm to
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One thing I find laughable is how quickly you and others accuse people of watching/listening to Tucker Carlson (or whichever similar person has your ire at a given time). Do you and people who believe and vote like you truly believe everyone who doesn't share your voting habits or other ideals watches that shite religiously?


I haven’t watched FoxNews longer than breakfast in a hotel lobby in 10 years and I’ve been accused of repeating foxnews talking points.
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 10:57 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62583 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:57 pm to
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(Before you’re say I’m conflating state with city statistics, note Illinois has 12 million people and 5 million live in the Chicagoland area.)
I'm glad you said it so I didn't have to. Even city-wide data sucks for crime statistics.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62583 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:59 pm to

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And that’s the only reason the media will talk about it for the next two weeks,
I mean, you had a guy in Sacramento shoot 18 in May and it disappeared *poof* like that.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120223 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 11:04 pm to
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I read a good bit of it. It was clearly written by someone that either completely lacked all critical thinking skills or had some sort of mental defect that made him believe all of the shitposting on the chans. It had sections for memes about each race. Seriously. Memes.

I wish the cops had smoked his stupid arse. They could have said they thought he was reaching for a weapon or something, and I don't think anyone would have questioned it.



If I was a conspiracy theorist I would say that there are people online (maybe associated with some group. Government? Another country? who knows) who come across people they see as easy to manipulate, based on what they post and they somehow motivate some of these people to do these things.

With no proof at all it would be silly to just say "yeah this is what is going on" as if its fact. But I am sure its not hard for an 18 year old in certain situations to become radicalized.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73188 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 11:04 pm to
It’s real

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