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re: Buffalo to Milwaukee, “hold my beer” updated, 10 dead, suspect in custody

Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:10 am to
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38449 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:10 am to
After watching that video I hope they let the families of the victims do to him whatever they wish. frick him.
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
26543 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:11 am to
The victim’s families need to do to him like the bad guys did to Robocop when they blasted him to pieces.
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8556 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:16 am to
how did yall find video?

edit: found it, fuq that's insane
This post was edited on 5/15/22 at 12:19 am
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
26543 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:18 am to
Delete
This post was edited on 5/15/22 at 12:20 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134653 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:18 am to
Twitter search buffalo shooting
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:19 am to
You may want to take that down hoss.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63416 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:20 am to
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If you want to argue that Chicago cooks their books fine. You don’t even have to provide any evidence. I’ll accept it.
I wouldn't expect you to accept it. Just don't feel like getting in to a google link war, or teaching stats tonight.

But to address your post, I do not think it's a matter of dishonesty or "cooking their books".

The bigger issue is population distribution and density. What is considered "in" the city vs. "out" of the city.

For example does NOLA include West Bank and Kenner? Or just Orleans parish? Or just City of NO incorporated area? Does "Baton Rouge" include just the City of BR incorporated area, EBR parish, or the entire BR MSA?

Depending on what you include (or not)-- you get vastly different per capita statistics. You can make a city look really or bad if you want to. That's why "city wide data sucks".

You can do a lot better looking a specific zip codes. You can do a lot better comparing shootings instead of murders (both require a gun). You can a lot better comparing crimes committed by illegal vs legal gun possessors. etc.

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My guess is that the statistics noise cancels out and you’re probably still left with Chicago ranking lower than those cities on a per capita basis.
Not really. It makes larger cities look better, and smaller cites look worse. Larger cites tend to have "good" and "bad" areas included. Smaller places with more sprawl often only get the "bad" areas included.

Plus, large cities like Chicago there are cities within the city so-to-speak (Oak Park for example). (Houston does this too--University place, Belaire, Hunters Creek, Spring Branch, etc). Those "good" areas typically get included because they are contiguous or even fully surrouned by the metro city.

Smaller places with more sprawl, separate out more population. I doubt any of the "Baton Rouge" numbers include Praireville and Denham Springs populations. But you probably should for a meaningful comparison because such a large portion of the BR MSA lives there. "Baton Rouge" stats are leaving a lot of people out of the per capital denominator.

This post was edited on 5/15/22 at 12:21 am
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:21 am to
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Looks like it’s from a damn video game. Dude just comes in blasting everyone.


A few clear headshots. That first lady was the hardest to watch.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:21 am to

What was that sorry at the end? What a jolt of a video. Shouldn't have watched
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:22 am to
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What was that sorry at the end? What a jolt of a video. Shouldn't have watched


Allegedly because that person was white.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:23 am to
...and now I’ve watched the video.

I regret it.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:23 am to
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think it’s important to study stuff like this so you can be prepared if you’re ever in this situation. The only chance people had was to run. Most of the people outside the store froze after the first shots and became victims. The one guy that ran wasn’t shot.


Bingo. You hear shots fired you run. Shooting a moving target is actually not easy, and if you can put a solid obstacle between yourself and the shots while still moving (say run around a building and keep running) your odds of survival just went way up.

Anyway I watched the video. Only feel profound sadness. The political class and their media cronies have worked hard to get us to fight each other - either class, race, etc. It's inevitable that we'll have more and more of this. And that's before they inevitably go after 'shall not be infringed' which they absolutely will.


very sad times. Total societal regression. it will only get worse.
This post was edited on 5/15/22 at 12:25 am
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
26543 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:25 am to
The guy he shot in the head on the ground inside the store was rough. You can see his whole body move when it happened.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:26 am to

The very first victim outside was the worst to me. The fall.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134653 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:27 am to
Was the first person he shot not white? Dude looked like he just went in blasting at anyone moving
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:27 am to
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The guy he shot in the head on the ground inside the store was rough. You can see his whole body move when it happened.


Yeah, I clicked play and it was a gut punch to see the woman get shot within the first 2 seconds of him getting out of the car. Her life was extinguished before she ever noticed him.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63416 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:28 am to
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What I’m arguing is give the gun control advocates the Avenue of pursuing their cause in their own respective state instead of trying to pass a one-size-fits-all federal law.
Well, people in Chicago blame "guns from Indiana" for their gun laws not working. Which begs the question "why doesn't Indiana have a gun problem?"

NY blames illegal imports all the time. I watched a docu Vice did about guns streaming in to NYC from Atlanta as the source of NYC's gun violence problem a couple of weeks ago. Eric Adams was droning on about it just the other day.

There's always an excuse. It's always the next law that will work. Unfortunately it's a people problem. Until you ban people, there will be evil folks that shoot others.
This post was edited on 5/15/22 at 12:34 am
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:29 am to
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Was the first person he shot not white? Dude looked like he just went in blasting at anyone moving


11 victims black, 2 white.

Edit: It’s presumed he didn’t kill the guy he said “sorry” to because he was white (or at the very least, he perceived him to be “white” in the split second he assessed the man). In any case, he must have been somewhat selective, for some reason, to no kill him.
This post was edited on 5/15/22 at 12:33 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63416 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:30 am to
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Looks like it’s from a damn video game.
Yet, almost certainly, the usual folks will bleam "Trump" and "white supremacy"...

Not that I'm blaming FPS games. Just interesting how the attribution gets distributed.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:30 am to
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Yeah, I clicked play and it was a gut punch to see the woman get shot within the first 2 seconds of him getting out of the car. Her life was extinguished before she ever noticed him.


Yeah. Figured out the video was the real deal real quick.

She was dead before she fell. Looked like a body shot or two and then a headshot on her way down.
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