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Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:01 pm to LegendInMyMind
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That bit about setting hotels on fire may have been what got her.
There's irony in that the American left argued that ACTUALLY setting buildings on fire and destroying people's property wasn't even violence or criminal since it was politically/socially motivated.
This post was edited on 10/17/24 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:01 pm to athenslife101
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If you run into a crowded theater and scream fire…. Your speech is not protected at all.
Despite being a lawyer I don't have a strong take on this. However, there is a pretty common stance by first amendment attorneys that this trope isn't true:
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"Anyone who says 'you can't shout fire! in a crowded theatre' is showing that they don't know much about the principles of free speech, or free speech law—or history," Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression President Greg Lukianoff wrote in 2021. "This old canard, a favorite reference of censorship apologists, needs to be retired. It's repeatedly and inappropriately used to justify speech limitations."
Nonetheless, it gets used casually all the time to the frustration of many in the con law community (notably Alito a few years ago).
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:02 pm to ChewyDante
"those businesses have insurance, don't they?"
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:03 pm to theGarnetWay
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But comments like this are also a gray area in the US regarding its legality.
Gray area? Really? Since when?
How is this any different than the consistent calling for violence against an ex president that the Left is still doing to this very minute?
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:03 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:04 pm to GrammarKnotsi
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this is Freedom of Speech, and thats what some of you dont get...Freedom of Speech is essentially FAFO..You can say whatever you want, but be prepared for consequences
It never ceases to amaze me how many adults don't know what the First Amendment says.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:05 pm to Klark Kent
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Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:05 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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It's October 2020 - Coming to the USA soon enough if Biden and the Democrats win next month.
It's October 2016 - Coming to the USA soon enough if Clinton and the Democrats win next month.
It's October.......(etc, etc, ad infinitum)
Whitehouse.gov
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FACT SHEET: Biden-?Harris Administration Takes New Actions to Counter Islamophobia and Anti-Arab Hate
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Over the past year, the Biden-Harris Administration has continued to take action to fight hatred and violence against Muslim and Arab communities.
White house task force to address online harassment and abuse
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And who gets to decide what constitutes harassment?
This post was edited on 10/17/24 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:07 pm to crap4brain
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we need to strongly defend our freedom of speech.
This.
That is a pretty wild comment, but JAIL TIME?!?! SCARY!! F-that.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:07 pm to GrammarKnotsi
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prepared for consequences
Well then is that really freedom?
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:12 pm to dnm3305
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Gray area? Really? Since when? How is this any different than the consistent calling for violence against an ex president that the Left is still doing to this very minute?
the gray area would be whether her tweet is an actual call to violence.
you can’t tell people to go light a hotel on fire.
Black: Go set the hotels that give them asylum on fire
White: I wouldn’t care if the hotels they were in went up in flames.
Grey: set their hotels on fire, see if I care.
part of the issue here was that there were some riots after where people attacked some mosques and set a police station on fire.
31 months is a lot though.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:14 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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childminder
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Is this some dumb British way of saying teacher?
I actually don't mind it.
Pre-K and Kindergarten teachers shouldn't be labeled as "teachers".
Childminder is more suitable.
My wife was a Pre-K and K teacher for a decade.
She wholeheartedly disagrees with my assessment.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:22 pm to athenslife101
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Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:22 pm to SammyTiger
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part of the issue here was that there were some riots after where people attacked some mosques and set a police station on fire.
Why did that happen?
Did muslims rape and stab 3 young girls or something?
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:24 pm to theGarnetWay
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FWIW I agree that Britain is going way too far with this kind of stuff in general. But comments like this are also a gray area in the US regarding its legality.
No, here you can actually set fire to the buildings and get bailed out by the useless Vice President.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:25 pm to crap4brain
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childminder
What a great word
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that called for "mass deportation now", and for hotels housing asylum seekers to be set on fire, adding: "If that makes me racist, so be it."
Has she considered posting on the OT?
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:28 pm to dnm3305
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Why did that happen? Did muslims rape and stab 3 young girls or something?
there was a mass stabbing.
The stabber as far as I can tell wasn’t muslim.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:35 pm to GrammarKnotsi
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this is Freedom of Speech, and thats what some of you dont get...Freedom of Speech is essentially FAFO..You can say whatever you want, but be prepared for consequences
Holy smooth brain Batman
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:55 pm to crap4brain
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