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re: Boston University creates a new Covid strain with an 80% kill rate

Posted on 10/17/22 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 3:56 pm to
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So if you put that spike protein on the original virus you just get omicron


Pfftt, like you know.





/s/
This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 3:57 pm
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:10 pm to
Between Boston Scientific and their machine gun robot dogs and Boston University and their Megadeth covid creation.... I'm not sure I want to go see fall colors up there this year
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
64755 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:10 pm to
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They ruined the world with it last time


Nb4 the resident idiots on this board say “you’re overreacting. It wasn’t all that bad”.
Posted by BROpaneTANK
Mandeville
Member since Apr 2010
2856 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:40 pm to
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“How was your day honey ?” “Oh today was awesome.. we successfully created a frankenstein covid and created an 80% death rate in mice … everyone was so happy and also secretly worried at the same time..”


Carson Wentz has had a lot free time since Thursday and for the next several weeks….
Posted by DonBridges
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:42 pm to

URGENT: CAN WE PLEASE NOT FREAK OUT ABOUT THE CHIMERIC OMICRON EXPERIMENT
Alex Berenson
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In the last 48 hours, people have been screaming about the news that Boston University researchers stuck the Omicron spike into the original Sars-Cov-2 virus -

and PRODUCED A VIRUS WITH AN 80 PERCENT MORTALITY RATE WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE DIE DIE HOW COULD THEY DO THIS -

Stop.

Just stop.

I read the paper.

It says the Omicron/wild-type Sars-Cov-2 combination the researchers created is more lethal than Omicron.

However, it ALSO says the Omicron/wild type virus is LESS lethal than original wild type. Neither of those findings should be a surprise. Omicron is much less dangerous than the original Sars-Cov-2, so blending the two together produces a virus with intermediate lethality.

What’s with the 80 percent mortality rate then?

It’s in mice, people.

And guess what? The wild-type had a 100 PERCENT mortality rate in mice.



Yes, all the mice infected with the original Sars-Cov-2 died.

Which is really bad. If you’re a mouse.

I think we can agree that Sars-Cov-2 does not have a 100 percent mortality rate in humans.

Nor did the researchers provide any evidence that the blended Omicron/wild-type coronavirus is able to defeat antibodies in people who have been infected with and recovered from Omicron. Which is basically all of us. (They did show that both the original Omicron and their variant beats the mRNA vaccines, but that fact is not a surprise either.)

Further, this work was conducted in a Biosafety Level 3 lab, the second-highest level, used for most viruses that aren’t Ebola/Marburg or smallpox. Should the work have been done in a top-level BSL 4 lab, with positive pressure and all the rest? Maybe. But considering we’ve all been exposed to Omicron already, and considering that the infection fatality rate from even the wild-type is more like 0.3 percent - 3 in 1000 - than 30 percent - maybe not.

Would it be a good idea to make this sort of fiddling with Sars-Cov-2 public BEFORE scientists conduct it, so virologists and the rest of us could discuss its risk? Yeah, more disclosure probably makes sense.

But truly, if the last two years have taught us anything, it’s that the biggest risk from Sars-Cov-2 is hysteria, not the virus itself.

Try not to fall into the trap.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
73053 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:42 pm to
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The 20% that survive would largely starve to death taking humanity from 8 billion to around to around say 300 million.


Well 500 million is the goal according to the Georgia Guidestones.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68951 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:44 pm to
Not sure what’s funny.

I don’t need the daily mail to tell me the us has bio labs and funds bio labs around the world.

This isn’t a secret. But I bet you still think we all got covid because some Chinese dude ate a bat.
This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 4:45 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68951 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:47 pm to
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But truly, if the last two years have taught us anything, it’s that the biggest risk from Sars-Cov-2 is hysteria, not the virus itself.


No shite. Still doesn’t make what they are doing right.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:48 pm to
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But truly, if the last two years have taught us anything, it’s that the biggest risk from Sars-Cov-2 is hysteria, not the virus itself.



Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27492 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:50 pm to
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Boston University creates a new Covid strain with an 80% kill rate


Congratulations?
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68951 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:51 pm to
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In fairness, the Daily Mail does publish some outstanding material.



Who tf cares where it’s coming from.

We just went through a global pandemic and a huge mind frick operation because people fricking around with viruses in a lab let it out.

Some of you are are just too stupid. Get your 3 boosters and don’t forget to take paxlovid. fricking moron.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27492 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:58 pm to
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considering the source of this "news" it should.





Fox picking up story


Toronto Sun

This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 5:00 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37168 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 5:04 pm to
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Try not to fall into the trap.


All that text and not one mention of transmission ability.

If it's 80 oercent fatal with the transmission rate of original Wuhan? Meh. If it's 80 percent fatal with the transmission rate of Omicron? We boned.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
10354 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 5:09 pm to
This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 5:12 pm
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17770 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 5:10 pm to
Nice catch OMLandshark
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85143 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 5:13 pm to
Fox and other stations can report on it, but the study is available to read yourself. The “80% kill rate” sounds scary until you realize the Wuhan variant kill rate was 100%.
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
2252 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 5:17 pm to
The science continuing to frick with chimeric COVID variants is worthy of action well beyond hysteria.
Posted by thatsnotmydog
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2013
369 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 5:18 pm to
You had me at"Professor Shmuel Shapira"
Posted by Bushido
Member since Oct 2022
293 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 5:20 pm to
Yeah this won't end badly
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109158 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 5:53 pm to
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From Scientist


Meant to add a “those” on there as in people doing Gain of Function research and medical tyranny. Big difference between that and an engineer.
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