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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30133 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:12 pm to
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Yes as far as the evidence would suggest that is the entire story.


I think it’s important to see what caused this entire confrontation from the beginning.

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You know what I don't know what to say, I can only hope that some of you people defending this have something like this happen to you or someone you love and then you're going to be like oh I guess I made a mistake.


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And I mean that's a really sad and hateful thing for me to say, but I really don't know how else you're going to come to the realization that this is not good.


This will discredit anything else you say. You condemn the killing of innocent Americans, then express a desire for it to happen to someone I know, simply because it might help YOU prove a point.

I’ve asked lots of questions in here, and have drawn my own conclusions. Similarly to last time, I think this was the sum of some bad decisions made by multiple people. You, Internet user Craig86 disagree with that, and in turn say that maybe if someone I love gets killed in the same manner, I can see your perspective.

That’s a great way to unite people.
Posted by Craig86
Florida
Member since Oct 2012
2088 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:12 pm to
I can't make this s*** up dude these people are literally borderline retarded on this forum it's nothing but a bunch of boomers that are just sitting there and they're f****** underwear banging on the keyboard with Fox News blaring in the background.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91573 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:12 pm to
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The 23 second mark where he walks over to the officer isn't real?
I’m not sure you’re not purposely trying to tank your position with every post.

You most likely made people think more of it being an execution with that post.

He’s not doing a whole lot there. ESPECIALLY at the 23 second mark.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182582 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:13 pm to
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The best thing to do when you see Injustice being done to your fellow man is to turn a blind eye and just mind your own business.



Deporting illegals is an injustice?

Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68532 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:13 pm to
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I for one would say ICE killing American citizens is a bigger issue than referring to those killings as executions but that's just me

The point is, there's no one BP or ICE could kill that would be acceptable to you. These people are literally obstructing the removal of violent criminals from their community and willing to pay with their lives. Oh yeah, the people being removed are also ILLEGALLY IN THE US.

That is utter insanity and anyone siding with that is a nutjob.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 8:14 pm
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13454 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:13 pm to
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You just proved his point


Obama deported more illegal immigrants in each of his terms than Trump did in his first term. That’s very well known… including by libs. The issue is the manner in which this is happening (e.g. masked agents that don’t identify themselves, arresting people in their legal asylum process, repeatedly using more force than is necessary). All at ridiculous cost to the taxpayer as well.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182582 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:13 pm to
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I’m not sure you’re not purposely trying to tank your position with every post.

You most likely made people think more of it being an execution with that post.

He’s not doing a whole lot there. ESPECIALLY at the 23 second mark.



My only point with that was that he chose to inject himself into the situation.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49420 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:13 pm to
I actually think the initial agent who shoved the woman and maced Pretti is the most culpable of anyone.

That all seemed pretty unnecessary unless there was som serious interaction that occurred before video started rolling.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91573 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:15 pm to
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he was already disarmed before he was executed
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No he wasn’t
Yeah you’re very likely wrong here
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74894 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:15 pm to
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I can't make this s*** up dude these people are literally borderline retarded on this forum it's nothing but a bunch of boomers that are just sitting there and they're f****** underwear banging on the keyboard with Fox News blaring in the background.


our OT Moderates are hilarious. We need to build a wall between Reddit and TD.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 8:16 pm
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23044 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:16 pm to
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Your refusal to answer my question directly is evidence that you know how silly your argument is


Is "sitting in your car" not answering the question directly?

If an officer hears a gunshot as his partner is going to ask for your weapon, does that not require a "split-second decision in tense, uncertain, and rapidly evolving situations?" It seems me that analyzing the "totality of the circumstances" would absolutely justify a shoot there. How is the second officer to know that his partner mishandled your gun rather than you shooting him dead in the street? Am I misunderstanding the law that you cited?
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
5287 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:16 pm to
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The point is, there's no one BP or ICE could kill that would be acceptable to you. These people are literally obstructing the removal of violent criminals from their community and willing to pay with their lives. Oh yeah, the people being removed are also ILLEGALLY IN THE US.

That is utter insanity and anyone siding with that is a nutjob.

I've seen them kill two American citizens in the past couple of weeks. One of them, we'll never really know if it was justified or not (though I definitely grant, as I did at the time, that it could have been). And this one, which is looking pretty clearly unjustified.

How many more do I have to see before I'm allowed to have a problem with it, in your view? How many dubious at best killings of American citizens by ICE is too many?
Posted by Craig86
Florida
Member since Oct 2012
2088 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:16 pm to
I'm done uniting with you people, your literal scum, you're a monster, you have no morals, you have no integrity, you have no couth, you are a coward.

I don't even have to know you in real life to get that vibe from you. You have put a felon into the f****** White House, you bitched about Hunter Biden and corruption while allowing corruption to balloon and fester to a level we have never seen in this country.

Your president has given 100% immunity to these officers, there will be no investigation, there will be no justice, there will be no truth to find. Because he's a goddamn evil son of a b****.

You're not a man, you're less than a man, you're less than a human being, your literal scum. I have no respect for you, you could never earn respect for me, I'm sure the people around you have no respect for you because they know you're a snake, you take pride and Glee in other people's suffering, you see a video of someone getting murdered and you sit there and say well they probably deserved it should have minded his own business. You're despicable, disgusting, I don't even pity you it's so pathetic.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30133 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:16 pm to
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So ICE is now on the level of drug dealers. Uniformed officers of the Government of the United States are just as volatile, unpredictable, and untrustworthy as thugs in the hood. Awesome


It’s an analogy. But I’ll play the exact same game as the victim.

I’m walking down the street with a lady. It’s legal for me to film activity of law enforcement, but why do I need to? What am I trying to accomplish? Why do I feel the need to direct a single car through traffic? Why not just continue on to the coffee shop?

Fine…ICE agents tell me to stop and get agitated. Me? I wouldn’t be in this situation, but IF I was, my survival skills would flicker on, and I’d be pissed, but maybe going about my day in the great city of Minneapolis, which is certainly not known for incidents with LEO, is the best course of action.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51959 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:17 pm to
Take it easy on old Craig

Ole Miss has had a tough time recently
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54725 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:17 pm to
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I'm emotional and a logical because I just saw a American citizen be executed in the street?

If you're not emotional about your fellow Americans being executed by federal officers, wake the frick up.


Are you this emotional during the year when your fellow Americans are gunned down in gang warfare or murdered on the streets?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49420 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:17 pm to
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Obama deported more illegal immigrants in each of his terms than Trump did in his first term. That’s very well known… including by libs. The issue is the manner in which this is happening


Nah
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13454 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:18 pm to
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So at that point, was he or was he not injecting himself into a situation that had nothing to do with him, which is what I stated earlier




Let’s see, at that point… ICE agent pushed a lady to the ground and maced a dude for yelling something at him. Pretti had helped a lady to the sidewalk and yelled something at an ICE agent. And your takeaway was that the major responsibility for the escalation to this point was on Pretti and not the ICE agent.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11959 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:18 pm to
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How many dubious at best killings of American citizens by ICE is too many?


That’s a question for the people funding and organizing the protests not some random poster on TD
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51959 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:18 pm to
You can say bad words here
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