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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:49 pm to
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We're all making assumptions here, no one actually knows anything


Assumptions sure, but we have videos.
Someone mentioned the first shot potentially being an accidental discharge, which made the shooter react and shooting him. I could see that.
Or the disarming officer calling out that he got the guy's gun and it being mistaken with he has a gun.

Those are too, not too far fetched scenarios that could justify the shooting.
The first one would be easy to prove too.
But as we stand now, this one looks rough.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:50 pm to
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I mean, this seems like an overreaction to me.

The guy (or gal) in the grey has no gun in his holster when he bends over. After the dead guy pops a cap, he leaves the area with his own gun in his hand, Because you will also notice that he already has his finger on the trigger when he pulls out of the scrum

You simply do not disarm a guy by putting your own finger on the trigger, and then pull on the gun

And from the opposite angle, it looks (and sounds) like the guy got off a round before everyone unloaded on him
Posted by bott18240
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
635 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:50 pm to
The problem is the politics and media fanning the flames. Take an hour and watch Fox then switch to CNN. It couldn’t be more of a polar opposite on how they spin things.
It’s like the liberal media is creating an army of Manchurian Candidates who are too stupid to realize they are being manipulated. And that can go for both sides.
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:50 pm to
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TDTOM
he're one that will fall in lock step with everything the trump admin does.

It's a cult folks.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70873 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:50 pm to
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I bet you won’t

You’ll find another place to draw that line in the sand

You’ll find a way to make that okay, too


Nope.
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:51 pm to
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Oh well. The only good communist is a dead communist.
your president rolls out the red carpet for the ultimate Communist.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
47981 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:51 pm to
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Oh well. The only good communist is a dead communist.

Hope those hero's get a nice steak dinner and a bonus in pay
Not brainwashed at all. Feds killing US Citizens is good because I disagree with their politics. Country is definitely doing better.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70873 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:52 pm to
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Assumptions sure, but we have videos.
Someone mentioned the first shot potentially being an accidental discharge, which made the shooter react and shooting him. I could see that.
Or the disarming officer calling out that he got the guy's gun and it being mistaken with he has a gun.

Those are too, not too far fetched scenarios that could justify the shooting.
The first one would be easy to prove too.
But as we stand now, this one looks rough.


Maybe so, could have been a myriad of causes.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:52 pm to
You are right. I don’t trust CNN or Fox News.

I do trust what I see with my eyes. The guy was disarmed, the agent pulled a gun and killed him.

The time for spin needs to stop and those who decide elections - the independents, not the partisans - are about to turn on this administration.

Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
7233 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:52 pm to
You haven't a clue what communism is but the Trump administration is acting more like communist every passing day.

Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37406 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:54 pm to
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The guy was disarmed, the agent pulled a gun and killed him. The time for spin needs to stop and those who decide elections - the independents, not the partisans - are about to turn on this administration.


But even if this cop is put on trial and found guilty of manslaughter, that doesn’t mean ICE is evil or immigration enforcement shouldn’t continue.

And if the left would stop interfering with enforcement, there would be less altercations.

it’s not all or nothing
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:55 pm to
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But even if this cop is put on trial and found guilty of manslaughter, that doesn’t mean ICE is evil or immigration enforcement shouldn’t continue.

agree here.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70873 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:56 pm to
I think the agent in a green shirt, dark pants, and a black beanie did the initial shooting. No one else seemed to have a gun out.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:56 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 12:45 am
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:57 pm to
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that doesn’t mean ICE is evil or immigration enforcement shouldn’t continue.


I don’t disagree but ICE has to show restraint and realize when they kill America citizens, it weakens the ultimate goal of removing illegals, especially those who are violent.

The killings are taking away from the purpose regardless of the victims.
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:57 pm to
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And if the left would stop interfering with enforcement, there would be less altercations.
If politicians like the retarded Waltz would quit egging this shite on it would stop. Dude is up at the presser telling people that ICE is not law enforcement. He knows what he's doing - he's fanning the flames for more weak willed Republicans to flip their votes in the midterms. He doesn't give a single shite about the people that are killed, he just wants votes.
Posted by MasterDigger
Member since Nov 2019
2970 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:58 pm to

Once you are told you are under arrest, you are considered under arrest.

You can be taken into physical custody before or after having been placed under arrest.

If you fight physical custody, you are resisting arrest.

If you grab and wrestle the arresting personnel, you have assaulted an officer.

If you try to get away, you are evading arrest.

If you have done all of these things and failed to inform the authorities that you have a handgun, you have committed a further crime.

If you try to prevent them disarming you when they are making an arrest and wrestle for control of the weapon, you are considered armed and dangerous.

If they shoot you when you have escalated from a simple arrest to being an armed and dangerous person, they were justified.


Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70873 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:58 pm to
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But even if this cop is put on trial and found guilty of manslaughter, that doesn’t mean ICE is evil or immigration enforcement shouldn’t continue.


I personally think we should definitely seal the border but I wouldn't be going door to door to hunt down illegals at this point.

I'd just deport the folks who cause problems. The toothpaste is too far out of the tube to be hunting folks down on the streets and will only cause more unrest.
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
3173 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:59 pm to
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But even if this cop is put on trial and found guilty of manslaughter, that doesn’t mean ICE is evil or immigration enforcement shouldn’t continue.
Their training is clearly insufficient. That’s coming more and more apparent but there does not appear to be any push to remedy this. They are doubling down and hiring every warm body that checks a few boxes.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23921 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:59 pm to
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Not brainwashed at all. Feds killing US Citizens is good because I disagree with their politics. Country is definitely doing better.


Get off your high horse, pussy. Your side has called everyone you disagree with Nazis, racist, homophobes, etc. fricking hypocrite
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