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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by TooFyeToFly
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2012
2304 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:42 pm to
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It’ll inevitably come out that he was a nutball and/or piece of shite


Some of yall are really sick from the culture war and need to step back to realize that we are intentionally being divided.

Last I checked it was legal to carry a gun in America.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27594 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:42 pm to
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but this is madness


Ice can shove you down, mace you, and kill you if you try to help protesters.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70873 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:42 pm to
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A man exercising his 2nd amendment right was murdered by federal agents for exercising his 2nd amendment right.


If you were asked to make up a story 15 years ago about why the 2nd is important, the story would have gone very much like today.

The people telling those stories 15 years ago are now defending the feds.

wtf are we doing, folks? When does the rah rah red vs blue dumbassery give way to common fricking sense? This shite is indefensible.


Defending the feds =/= not assuming your assumptions are fact
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37406 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:42 pm to
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+1 I'm all for getting immigration under control, but this is madness


the madness is only there because the left is organizing protests to stop the people getting immigration under control.

these incidents would stop if

1) ICE would leave

2) citizens would stop harassing ICE

why is only number 1 the option?
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10844 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:43 pm to
This has nothing to do with the second amendment. You don’t have a right under the constitution to interfere in law enforcement activities or to resist arrest.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:43 pm to
It’s mind blowing to see “he was armed!” from those who support the second amendment. Pick and choose when being armed means one should die.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70873 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:43 pm to
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I think you need to read up on this story or watch the three angles from the shooting. You either haven't watched it, or are acting dumb.

The answer to your last question is 1) watch the video 2) the suspect's gun matching what he's holding (maybe they carried the same thing 3)body language. It's pretty clear that's the suspect's gun.

You criticize people analyzing the video, hoever you have no problem saying, out of your arse I must add, that "he probably pulled a gun and was shot." weird


We're all making assumptions here, no one actually knows anything
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23921 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:43 pm to
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these incidents would stop if

1) ICE would leave

2) citizens would stop harassing ICE

why is only number 1 the option?



3) democrats turn over illegal aliens at the jail instead of releasing them back on the streets

But let’s be honest…. Democrats are the root cause of this issue. They allowed an invasion at our border for 4 years.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 1:46 pm
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10844 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:44 pm to
The protestor had a right to own a gun. No one is saying otherwise. His right to be armed doesn’t mean he then gets to reach for a gun while being arrested.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27228 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:44 pm to
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everyone scatters, and shooting starts.

this isn't what happens. the only guy running before the shots is the guy that runs away with the gun. here is the moment at 1:01 of the video. noone else is scattering when that shot is fired.



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Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
7233 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:45 pm to
Here's a new angle. He was protecting two women that the Gastapo were pushing. He stepped in, got immediately sprayed by a Ice. Pinned to the ground, beaten in the head by a mace can and then shot multiple times. His hands were out in front and on the ground.

LINK
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 1:47 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24216 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:45 pm to
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It’s mind blowing to see “he was armed!” from those who support the second amendment. Pick and choose when being armed means one should die.


You dont resist arrest when you are armed you. That’s conceal carry 101
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 1:50 pm
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
90064 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:45 pm to
if Walz and Frey are so worried about the safety of the citizens of Minneapolis St. Paul, then why don’t they send sheriff and Minneapolis PD to protect the people of Minneapolis in these encounters?

In other words, why are Ice out there on their own dealing with the citizens of Minneapolis? It seems to me walz and Frey have their priorities backwards. If Ice is such a awful federal agency, then why aren’t they protecting the people and keeping them away from Ice?

These Minnesota politicians don’t have the authority to make Ice leave, but they definitely have the authority to protect their own citizens.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:45 pm to
Where do you have evidence of him reaching? All I’ve seen is the gun being removed and the agent then removing his gun and killing him.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70873 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

The protestor had a right to own a gun. No one is saying otherwise. His right to be armed doesn’t mean he then gets to reach for a gun while being arrested.


Absolutely.

We have some folks here just assuming that he had been disarmed and then using that assumption as fact in their argument.

If that is, indeed, a fact, then I agree with them. But it's all just speculation right now.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:46 pm to
He was getting his arse kicked by seven agents. Is that resisting arrest?
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39702 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

if you can’t be a 100% perfect human being who never makes a mistake


To be clear - the “mistake” here is shooting a person to death without justification?

What the frick are you talking about
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39702 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:48 pm to
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If that is, indeed, a fact, then I agree with them


I bet you won’t

You’ll find another place to draw that line in the sand

You’ll find a way to make that okay, too
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
18532 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:48 pm to
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Ask yourself why Genuinely Take some time and actually consider the differences.


Explain
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23921 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:48 pm to
Oh well. The only good communist is a dead communist.

Hope those hero's get a nice steak dinner and a bonus in pay
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