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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:48 pm to
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79464 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:48 pm to
You can name all the people killed in Minesota by ICE but can't produce a list of those proven criminals arrested by ICE in the same period.

Can't even put a number on the number of bad hombres
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 9:49 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74378 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:48 pm to
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There just wasn't political will to do it in this retarded manner


Why isn’t it being done in this “retarded manner” in all the others states where ICE is operating?

Why is Minnesota different? There are other states where ICE has arrested, and is still arresting, more illegal aliens than in Minnesota. Why aren’t they being “retarded” in those states?

This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 9:50 pm
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28182 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:49 pm to
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Interferring with ICE operations, while armed, then fighting with agents arresting/detaining you greatly increases the chance of you getting shot

is this what you, and be honest here, got after watching that video?

like, for example, imaging that video was taken in Turkey, or Greece, or some other foreign nation that had NOTHING to do with our political arena, whatsoever... you'd still have the same opinion of how the LEO acted? would you still think it's the victim's fault?
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
24165 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:49 pm to
See, this is why no one takes you leftist serious. Targeting jails would be a smart policy except you democrats have decided not to work with ICE and ignore detainers. So instead of “targeting jails” and handing over criminals at the jail, liberals have decided to release the criminals back onto the streets. Once again, your policies lead to the things your complaining about

Also, I agree with targeting employers. There should be strict enforcement of e-verify
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12713 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:49 pm to
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Are you suggesting the way federal immigration law is applied should be different in Minnesota than Texas? Does the fact these illegal have made it a few thousand miles make them immune from federal law? Help me understand why you think it makes a difference
Do you really not understand that border patrol has the vast majority of their presence … wait for it.. at the border, nowhere near civilization?

I know you’re educated, so please, help me understand how this system of politics has retarded your mind to this degree.
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 9:50 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79464 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:50 pm to
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Why isn’t it being done in this “retarded manner” in all the others states where ICE is operating?

Why is Minnesota different?


Probably because ICE is trying to instigate. In New Orleans they didn't find enough press or resistance. Honestly no one cared.
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61685 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:50 pm to
If you want to get lit up, make the decision to go where shite is happening.

Or be rational and always go the opposite direction from where shite is weird.

It’s not that hard.
Posted by GeauxPanthers2
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Dec 2024
2929 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:50 pm to
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It’s really not even up for debate

Only in your fricked up head.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87682 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:51 pm to
95% of what ICE is doing is mundane. There was always going to be a drop in public enthusiasm at doing the dirty work, regardless of whether you buy into egregious narratives about ICE
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:51 pm to
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Why isn’t it being done in this “retarded manner” in all the others states where ICE is operating?


Well the policy I referenced was national

The MN stuff is just the nail in the coffin for public support. He REALLY fricked it by picking that fight.

Support had flipped after the justified killing happened a few weeks ago. It's about to crater after this killing.

The sad thing is there were reports that the admin was starting to have discussions about creating an exit plan after realizing how bad they fricked it in MN but this shooting is not going to let that continue, I reckon.

quote:

Why is Minnesota different? There are other states where ICE has arrested, and is still arresting, illegal aliens than in Minnesota. Why aren’t they being “retarded” in those states?

Other than the obvious fact that MN isn't cooperating, the admin threw down the gauntlet by choosing to publicly make MN the largest ICE operation ever, making it the national epicenter of anti-Trumpism re: immigration.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
9185 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:51 pm to
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there is no reason that they cannot conduct themselves in a more professional manner, without the Call of Duty cosplay they seem to like doing....



Yea none at all

Incredible how dumb some people are
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28182 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:52 pm to
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Trump can reinvent himself

Trump is incapable of changing... he never has, never will... and honestly, at this point, i don't even think Trump is the prime mover in our illegal immigration movement.... it's a lot of the people in his orbit and who have his ear...

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But someone has to do it

agreed...

quote:

nobody else outside of his movement will.


you don't know this, and with a closed mind to other possibilities, you woudn't believe it even if it was spelled out by someone else... you said so yourself....
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:52 pm to
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See, this is why no one takes you leftist serious.

No actual leftist would promote a policy to maximize deportations like I did

quote:

Targeting jails would be a smart policy except you democrats have decided not to work with ICE and ignore detainers.

There are enough cooperating jails to work with.

Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19861 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:52 pm to
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This shooting has made quite a few people just get up and leave reality entirely


I'm sure when the facts come out in the following days, you'll abandon this topic like so many others you diappear from... You are by far the most gutless intellectual coward on this site.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28182 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:53 pm to
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Yea none at all

i'm not going to apologize for wanting our LEOs to be held to a standard higher than our criminals, while enforcing our laws...

with great power comes great responsibility
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85302 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:53 pm to
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The overreliance on aggression is the primary problem


The primary problem is blue areas won’t cooperate with ICE, which forces ICE to be aggressive. This is not complicated, but you refuse to acknowledge it. You just want to find a way to blame ICE and MAGA without directly doing so, bc that’s your MO.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40374 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:54 pm to
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95% of what ICE is doing is mundane.


That’s 5% is pretty loud right now brother

And that dirty work is looking extremely dirty
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79464 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:54 pm to
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sure when the facts come out in the following days


What additional facts are you expecting? There is a video. Even the hard-core defenders aren't in this thread after seeing that video.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:54 pm to
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I'm sure when the facts come out in the following days

We have the videos of the incident.

The only fact that would really change anything at this point would be gunpowder residue showing the decedent fired the weapon, but I don't think anyone is really banking on that version of the facts.

Now I'm sure there will be plenty of irrelevant facts posted, but they remain irrelevant.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12713 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:55 pm to
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95% of what ICE is doing is mundane.

Agreed. And I support the effort to reduce the illegal population.

quote:

There was always going to be a drop in public enthusiasm at doing the dirty work, regardless of whether you buy into egregious narratives about ICE

Broad brush narratives and political agendas aside, watching that killing should disgust anyone who believes in the constitution of the United States and what this country stands for.
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 9:57 pm
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