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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:55 pm to
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:55 pm to
I mean, name them then

It’s not a gotcha, tell me the political contingents in the US who give two shits about fixing the problem. A majority of political movements in this country won’t even call it a problem outside of some vague reference to a “a broken system”
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:55 pm to
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The primary problem is blue areas won’t cooperate with ICE, which forces ICE to be aggressive.

Nope

Divert the resources to areas that will cooperate and maximize deportations.

No need to waste resources and political capital and galvanize the Left by being more aggressive in hostile areas.

Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:56 pm to
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Probably because ICE is trying to instigate.


You think a federal law enforcement agency upholding the laws it’s constitutionally obliged to uphold is “instigating”?

Help me understand your logic here.

quote:

In New Orleans they didn't find enough press or resistance. Honestly no one cared.


I’m sorry it bothers you the people of NO believe in upholding our nation’s immigration laws.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:56 pm to
Right

Even the dudes that LOVE to argue have just been slinging ad Homs around and trying to shift the focus away from this incident

Because there’s no honest, moral, reasonable way to watch what happened and sign off on it
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:56 pm to
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What additional facts are you expecting? There is a video. Even the hard-core defenders aren't in this thread after seeing that video.


There are body cam videos and there are always more facts that come out. If you think you have all the facts then there is no helping you.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:57 pm to
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In New Orleans they didn't find enough press or resistance.


In NOLA, they didn’t have a governor fanning the flames and had local cooperation with police and state patrol. But enjoy living in make believe
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:57 pm to
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In NOLA, they didn’t have a governor fanning the flames and had local cooperation with police

Sounds like the areas they should be targeting
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:57 pm to
“Someone shouted gun and i saw him reach for his hip and I didn’t know the weapon had already been removed” is entirely different than the cold blooded execution narrative no?
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:57 pm to
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it’s constitutionally obliged to uphold is “instigating”?

Help me understand your logic here


Yes. Hire under-qualified idiots to fill a role. This is the ICE hiring protocol over the last 8-10 months.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:59 pm to
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There are body cam videos


ICE has body cams now? Because two weeks ago they were getting run over using cellphones. ICE wasn't allowed to use body cams then.

Btw, I was shite on for saying ICE should have bodycams instead of having to use their cellphones.


Nice you have at least come over to the sane side in supporting ICE using body cams.
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 10:01 pm
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:00 pm to
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Now I'm sure there will be plenty of irrelevant facts posted, but they remain irrelevant.



Funny how you think you determine the relevancy given your abysmal record in these threads. Just stick to what you know best.

Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87682 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:00 pm to
Ok. Even if true, do you think that’s because we want the gestapo to be uneducated, or because we have limited time to solve an incalculably complicated disaster before the next administration throws open the floodgates again?
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20867 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:00 pm to
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In NOLA, they didn’t have a governor fanning the flames and had local cooperation with police and state patrol. But enjoy living in make believe


Blacks and whites = Nola

Minn = Africans and whites that have never lived around blacks.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40374 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:01 pm to
The body cam from the shooting officer is just gonna show the back of Pretti’s head before it gets shot

Doubt that’ll help the cause
Posted by The Third Leg
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:01 pm to
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“Someone shouted gun and i saw him reach for his hip and I didn’t know the weapon had already been removed” is entirely different than the cold blooded execution narrative no?

I don’t think the agent murdered him in cold blood for no reason, I think he panicked because he isn’t well trained and the fact that he fired so many shots into his back is all I need to convince me of that. Doesn’t excuse it, and doesn’t make it any less murderous. Guy is a moron and unfit for service of this type and needs to face charges. I don’t think there are many juries that will be convinced he was in clear and present danger
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:03 pm to
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Divert the resources to areas that will cooperate and maximize deportations.


Parenting 101.

When your child is having a temper tantrum and is acting out you can't give into them or you reenforce their bad behavior and encourage them to continue to act this way.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:03 pm to
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given your abysmal record in these threads.


wut

I've been on the right side of all of these major stories, dating back to Trayvon Martin
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74378 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:03 pm to
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Yes. Hire under-qualified idiots to fill a role. This is the ICE hiring protocol over the last 8-10 months.


You do realize the guy on the right is in charge of ICE, right?



What ICE is doing now, is what they’ve done since they were established. Obama even gave him a medal for it in 2015. The only thing that’s changed is now Democrats are using this as a political tool.

And you’re stupid enough to fall for it.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79464 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:04 pm to
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or because we have limited time to solve an incalculably complicated disaster before the next administration throws open the floodgates again?


Yes. I believe it is because we are rushing a solution without any thought. 2016-2000 had time to build this force and didnt.

No, I do not believe this ICE surge is making us safer. The lack of names and evidence after a surge makes me realize that we are spending far to much for the results.

I can easily list you people (by name) brought into NOPD under alleged crimes. I cannot find all of these dangerous immigrants arrested by ICE. It is a fricking spreadsheet and they can't provide it.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87682 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:04 pm to
My point is the account of those involved matters (to me) and we don’t have it.

And could certainly change my initial impressions even if i think it goes from an egregious bad shoot to a tragic but somewhat understandable mixed bag, etc.
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