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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:38 pm to
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:38 pm to
Everyone knows your a racist commie… bro
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10913 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:38 pm to
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This shooting has made quite a few people just get up and leave reality entirely



Yeah…the weather, football playoffs, and actually having a life have nothing to do with it. We can’t all have your post count or even want to be that sad at life.

Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69402 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:39 pm to
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Noticing a pattern here of people who can’t defend this shooting (because it’s not defensible)


No one can 100% defend any position on this incident as there's a ton of evidence still out there that could change the case either way. Most of what we have is just big picture knowledge based on conjecture from incomplete and low quality videos, unreliable biased eyewitness testimony from one woman, and playing Monday morning quarterback.
Posted by ISEN_AG
ThunderWolf Manor
Member since Aug 2013
2377 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:39 pm to
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I think the death causes bias in the whole situation.


No shite sherlock. Someone got shot and died because people who are supposed to enforce the laws are going overboard.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12713 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:39 pm to
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Well, no one was executed for starters

Derp.

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Nothing is going to happen with charges until an investigation is done, all evidence is viewed, and the district attorney or department of justice makes a determination that it was a criminal act. This happened on a Saturday. No one is bringing charges until tomorrow at the earliest. So you're melting because you need someone charged NOW?

Nobody melting, this a message board where people talk shite. The fact the DHS is coming out with ridiculous narratives that have been clearly refuted with many videos at the scene is a problem.

Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem said that 37-year-old Alex Pretti had approached DHS officers with a pistol and that he was killed after he resisted attempts to disarm him.

Trump administration officials immediately defended the action as self-defense while blaming the victim — in this case claiming he was a "domestic terrorist" intending to "massacre" officers.

In reality, their agent shot a guy face down on the ground a bunch of times
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 9:40 pm
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28182 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:39 pm to
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The overreliance on aggression is the primary problem

Well, secondary, the emotions are the primary problem, and that's what leads to the perceived need for overly aggressive policies.

Target employers
Target jails
Target red areas who will cooperate and won't protest

There are enough illegals in the US to keep us occupied just doing that for years and years. Certainly the rest of Trump's term.

What that plan lacks is the emotional reactions and dopamine hits from "owning the libs" though, so it's unpalatable.

this is EXACTLY the problem...

doing it without spectacle and prominance doesn't placate the base, and thus is not good enough for those that want utter destruction of a perceived enemy...
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87682 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:39 pm to
Again this is Ron Paul stuff

It may be right. But the only movement willing to actually see an effort through is MAGA, such as it is.

There is no alternative.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:40 pm to
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Yeah…the weather, football playoffs, and actually having a life have nothing to do with it.


What did the weather, football playoffs, and actually having a life have to do with people posting the most retarded shite imaginable on here in response to the killing in MN?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:41 pm to
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But the only movement willing to actually see an effort through is MAGA, such as it is.

There is no alternative.


Immigration was Trump's most favored policy until he went MAGAtard and fricked it up.

There was plenty of political will

There just wasn't political will to do it in this retarded manner

*ETA: that's why you're starting to see the self deception meme start. MAGA is in the denial phase now, transitioning into "this is the media's fault". By November it will be "fraud is how we lost"
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 9:43 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87682 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:42 pm to
People worried about the stuff you guys are worried about would get derailed the first time someone called you a bigot.

And me too. Hence, Trump. And obviously that’s imperfect and he’s subject to chasing his own windmills, but we have zero leaders with the spine to do this outside of MAGA
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28182 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:43 pm to
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There is no alternative.

sure there is... there is no reason that they cannot conduct themselves in a more professional manner, without the Call of Duty cosplay they seem to like doing....
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74378 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:43 pm to
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Darth, that data has already been posted by others and commented on by me, specifically. You're very, very wrong.


bullshite.

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No. You projected that. Proving you wrong. This was not even the first time I had made this point/argument. But I think it's the first time the data you posted was posted by someone else.


More bullshite. You literally posted a link to the thread showing where far more arrests have been made in other states than Minnesota, all without the bullshite going on in Minnesota. It’s pathetic you think that somehow proves me wrong. As I said rarely, you really are stupid.

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Brother, you have just been proven so be so wrong. Don't get emotional


You saying something repeatedly doesn’t make it true. All it does is show you’re a complete imbecile who believes his own bullshite.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79464 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:44 pm to
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too. Hence, Trump. And obviously that’s imperfect and he’s subject to chasing his own windmills, but we have zero leaders with the spine to do this outside of MAGA


To ve clear in the last week he claimed New Orleans now had zero crime and also said we should use American cities as training grounds for our military.

Both of those statements you support.

The guy is out of his mind with brief moments of lucidity. He has no internal voice so he just says the shite that shouldn't be said. He is losing his shite as an 80 year old man. Just as Biden did.
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 9:46 pm
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26689 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:44 pm to
Interferring with ICE operations, while armed, then fighting with agents arresting/detaining you greatly increases the chance of you getting shot and shouldn't come as a suprise to anyone who isn't retarded.

Pretti and the morons who brainwashed him deserve 95% of the blame for this.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28182 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:44 pm to
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And obviously that’s imperfect and he’s subject to chasing his own windmills, but we have zero leaders with the spine to do this outside of MAGA

so if you can't beat 'em, join 'em, huh?

yeah, frick that... it fhat works for YOU, cool... i ain't mad at ya... but that just don't work for me
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12713 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:45 pm to
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You executed that guy with your leftwing open border and sanctuary city policies. His blood is on your hands, commie

Scroll up, queer—I just said This

These aren’t my policies. I don’t even vote. Zero fricks about either of these garbage options.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40375 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:45 pm to
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Immigration was Trump's most favored policy until he went MAGAtard and fricked it up. There was plenty of political will There just wasn't political will to do it in this retarded manner


This is indisputable at this point

He took a popular stance and fricked it up completely with his petulant, aggressive, borderline inhumane approach

It’s really not even up for debate
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:47 pm to
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. You literally posted a link to the thread showing where far more arrests have been made in other states than Minnesota, all without the bullshite going on in Minnesota

Yes, and?

It sounds like you're making up more things and ignoring what is actually written again.

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It’s pathetic you think that somehow proves me wrong.

You created a straw man that I just proved was a straw man.

I never said Minnesota was being specifically targeted OTHER than being the place where the admin chose, for whatever reason, to make it the epicenter of this whole national debate by creating the largest ICE operation ever there.

If you paid attention, the entire point of my argument is that a policy geared at maximizing deportations would divert resources from MN to the areas cooperating and, naturally, having more success. That is the rational policy, not wasting so much in MN without getting resources.

The typical response would be people exposing that maximizing deportations was not their primary goal.

You just created a straw man and ignored the discussion entirely.
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:47 pm to
Always agreed with Trump on this. As I said when the lesbian died, if not for who she voted for that left border wide open, we wouldn't be in this place to begin with.

Biden is really to blame.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87682 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:47 pm to
I’m sure you guys can cook up the perfect recipe for how Trump can reinvent himself and approach this better. But someone has to do it, and nobody else outside of his movement will.

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