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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

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Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24364 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:22 pm to
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When you’re kitted up like you’re about to go door to door in Fallujah, a whistle is the only thing that can do any real damage. It can even get thru that plate armor.


Are you suggesting that blowing a rape whistle in your ear should be legal? Damaging someone’s hearing is certainly criminal
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:22 pm to
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Which is literally a petty misdemeanor with a max fine of $25


Ok? What does that have to do with me correcting the dipshit on his assertion?
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
28002 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:22 pm to
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Correct. However he had no permit on him (or even photo ID), which under Minnesota state law is illegal. fricking stupid law, but there it is.

Try to read better.

You'd probably know this if you understood "your government" better.


Again, this is all fricking semantics and you know it. He should've been what? Arrested at worst? Issued a ticket and weapon confiscated?

Not executed in the street like a dog
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13455 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:23 pm to
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Ok? What does that have to do with me correcting the dipshit on his assertion?


Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
28002 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:23 pm to
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Centinel


Was the shooting justified?
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9470 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:23 pm to
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If he was carrying without a permit which is against the law in Minnesota

I thought the Constitution applied everywhere? Are you acknowledging that states have the right to limit firearms?!? Who knew?

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:23 pm to
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Again, this is all fricking semantics and you know it.


You said he was legally carrying. He was not. That's not semantics, that's correcting you on your ignorance of Minnesota concealed carry law.

Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16781 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:23 pm to
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“In retrospect, after we executed the noncombatant, we discovered he was in violation of not carrying his permit, and so therefore, we are clear of any wrongdoing.”


This is like saying Koresh needed to be stopped because he was a pedophile.

I agree he was a pedophile, but it is not the business of the ATF or the subject of the raid. Alex didn't have an ID like required by law, but that's none of ICE's business and they don't enforce state law.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:26 pm to
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I thought the Constitution applied everywhere? Are you acknowledging that states have the right to limit firearms?!? Who knew?



Did you ignore the part where I said it was a stupid fricking law?

I am 100% an advocate for constitutional carry, even for the most batshit crazy progressive. I was correcting dipshit on his ignorance of the law, a law I specifically said I disagreed with. But keep on assuming what you wish I guess.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26631 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:26 pm to
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Mung


Humor me here. Do you think that blowing a 120dB whistle in the ears of federal agents is "peaceful"?

And are you seriously saying that this constant whistle blowing causes no harm?

What was fat whistle lady actually out there protesting? What specific arrest? Pedophile? Murderer? Drug trafficker? Lawn guy?

It's amazing that this stuff isn't happening many other places outside of liberal safe spaces.

I'm disturbed by this current shooting, I think things have escalated way too far in this country, but I have no remorse for these idiots blowing whistles in ICE agents ears.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13455 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:28 pm to
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Alex didn't have an ID like required by law, but that's none of ICE's business and they don't enforce state law.


Agreed.

And considering the amount of disinformation (e.g. Noem’s statement and Bovino’s interview), what’s the concrete evidence we have that Pretti wasn’t carrying (a) ID and (b) a concealed carry permit?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:28 pm to
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Was the shooting justified?


No, and I've never said it was. Sorry to burst your gotcha bubble.

Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9470 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:29 pm to
“Mommy, that woman hurt my ears with her whistle!”

Good Lordy I never knew TD was so full of bootlickers. All those years of bitching about the government infringing on your rights. Turns out you’re actually ok with it, as long as it’s Dems getting the beat down. What makes you think they wont eventually come for you when they run out of Dems and Messicans?
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14454 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:29 pm to
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reasonably believed at time


IMO this is why the shooter should be charged. It doesn’t ever appear that his hands go near where his gun was. Just hearing “gun” is not reasonable to unload on a person on the ground.

If only they didn’t stop the practice of wearing body cams for some reason…
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
28002 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:29 pm to
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No, and I've never said it was. Sorry to burst your gotcha bubble.


So what are you here to argue? A bunch of whataboutisms?
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
28002 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:31 pm to
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stout



So you post fake bullshite today and pivot to this weak shite?
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26631 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:31 pm to
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Mommy, that woman hurt my ears with her whistle!”


Never mind, don't answer my questions, you're unhinged.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:31 pm to
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So what are you here to argue?


That Walz and Kemp are purposefully creating these confrontations, and that more people will die because of it.

Not that they give a frick.

And to make fun of your stupid fricking statements like "your government"
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23461 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:33 pm to
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IMO this is why the shooter should be charged. It doesn’t ever appear that his hands go near where his gun was. Just hearing “gun” is not reasonable to unload on a person on the ground.


The ole South Park defense. All squads need to have a designated gun-guy. As soon as those uppity libtards start causing trouble, have him yell "GUN GUN GUN" and unload on them. It's foolproof!
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