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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:29 pm to Clames
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:29 pm to Clames
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It's a personal choice, a very obvious explanation as the very act of CCW at any level is a personal choice.
cool... thank you for exlplanation of your opinion... i sincerely mean that
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Then he should have stayed away from that area, he chose to actively participate in that situation.
is there any situation that you would be ok with peaceful protesting? and keep in mind, at the time of the confrontation, Pretti was on the sidewalk, across the street, with a phone in hand and gun still concealed, so he wasn't posing a direct threat, nor impeding with their objective...
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Was he the lady that was shoved? No. Obviously it was not a situation that required him riding in to white knight for her but he chose to do so anyway, while armed. Bad decision on his part.
again, i think it's instinctual... sorry, but i see a woman being harmed, even if i don't know them, then yes, i'd likely interject to protect that woman... sorry, that's how i was raised.. you don't hit women, period.... you apparently weren't raised that way, and that's ok...
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I carry a gun pretty much everywhere I am legally able to
honest question, and it's not a "gotcha" or anything, i'm genuinely curious... why?
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Pretty obvious to see what mindset Pretti was in.
is it? b/c i feel that he had the firearm for protection, not to go out hunting ICE agents
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:False. Once they identify him as someone who is attempting to obstruct, they begin their assessment of a potential threat. It would begin there and all actions leading up to the shots are relevant including him being in the street. That’s a basic standard.
Probably not. Not if we were talking about a prosecution of the officer who killed him, at least.
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:29 pm to Classy Doge
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neither you nor I know what these idiots were doing into the lead up to the shooting.
I don't care because it's not relevant to the discussion at hand.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:30 pm to ell_13
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False. Once they identify him as someone who is attempting to obstruct, they begin their assessment of a potential threat. It would begin there and all actions leading up to the shots are relevant including him being in the street. That’s a basic standard.
Correct
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:31 pm to whatiknowsofar
Assassin
Massacre
Wanted to inflict maximum damage
Domestic terrorist
All words used by this administration in the immediate aftermath to deserve and condemn this guy.
If that doesn’t disgust you, then you’re probably too far gone.
Massacre
Wanted to inflict maximum damage
Domestic terrorist
All words used by this administration in the immediate aftermath to deserve and condemn this guy.
If that doesn’t disgust you, then you’re probably too far gone.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:31 pm to pankReb
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they begin their assessment of a potential threat.
So they did a shitty job of that
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:31 pm to ell_13
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Once they identify his as someone who is attempting to obstruct, they begin their assessment of a potential threat.
He was never a threat.
And their actions don't reflect that they considered him a threat, considering they pushed the woman instead.
You're reaching. Bigly.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:31 pm to STLhog
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At some point in the scuffle, whether pre/post removal of the gun, someone yells "gun" and shots are fired.
If true, I hope they come down on the agent that shot.
Hearing someone yell "gun" should not be a green light to open fire without other circumstances that indicate a reasonable threat.
This coming from someone that supports the job the feds are doing. They still have to do it right.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:32 pm to Antonio Moss
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There is a very real possibility that the shooting agent is found to be justified in his use of force
with this DOJ, this shite won't ever see a court room, bruh...
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ICE, as employer, is held civilly liable for the actions of agent one and the consequences of his actions.
maybe, but nothing will happen to the man who actually committed murder, and that is the sad part, to me
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:32 pm to forkedintheroad
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:32 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Friendly reminder that the trump admin called this man a "would-be assassin"
You and you ilk are throwing out terms like "murder" with zero evidentiary/legal support.
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We just love our inciteful president dont we folks?
You certainly mouth-hug Walz and Frey for their inciteful rhetoric.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:32 pm to pankReb
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Why is deflection the go-to response for people with shitty arguments?
Yeah, why are you deflecting so much?
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What are you even arguing
I'm sorry you cant keep up with the multiple ice shootings.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:33 pm to Clames
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You and you ilk are throwing out terms like "murder" with zero evidentiary/legal support.
Lmfao we have eyeballs frick boy
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:33 pm to lsupride87
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The Monster and zyn kicked in for the agent
Need moar posts like this. Have an upper.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:33 pm to forkedintheroad
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Hearing someone yell "gun" should not be a green light to open fire
well, if you see ANY of the videos, it CLEARLY was... the shots, and there MANY of them, come immediately after the "gun" shouts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:33 pm to Clames
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You and you ilk are throwing out terms like "murder" with zero evidentiary/legal support.
The response of a toddler
“You guys do it too!”
Also, we aren’t the fricking president
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:33 pm to Clames
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You and you ilk are throwing out terms like "murder" with zero evidentiary/legal support.
Not to get technical, but there is a ton of evidentiary support, considering they killed him.
Legal is the only debate.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:34 pm to ell_13
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Obstruct
He didn’t even do that. He was helping out the lady who got shoved and maced when the agents threw him to the ground.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:35 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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You don’t get to escalate a situation to such an insane degree and then hide behind the confusion you created when your fellow officer disarmed a man and you shot him in the BACK while he was on the ground
The agent that shot Pretti was not the agent who escalated the situation.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:35 pm to whatiknowsofar
You just can’t help but to prove to everyone that you have shitty arguments.
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