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re: Blaine Salamoni appeals his firing
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:25 pm to Saltwatersoul04
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:25 pm to Saltwatersoul04
quote:
he killed an armed felon illegally possessing a firearm and resisting arrest
I don't think this was proven in a court of law.
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:26 pm to Sao
Show me on this doll where the big bad police man touched you.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:26 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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This post was edited on 9/26/20 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:28 pm to Bmath
There was enough evidence that this was the case for it to not have to go to court according to the Attorney General.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:06 pm to Pelican fan99
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love to see how you’d respond when some dealing with some POS like that
There are 2 things Blaine and I have in common:
Neither of us seem qualified to handle that situation
And now neither of us are police
There are lots of jobs I’d be terrible at, and some I’m particularly excellent at.... lets all try to stick to our strengths. Or at least not pick ones with life and death consequences if it’s not a strong suit
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:18 pm to BowDownToLSU
quote:
I hope BR has to pay him a record lawsuit. He was fired for taking out the trash
It doesn't really work like that.
Based on what you said, it should be okay for the police to kill anyone who is a felon.
With that said, while I think the shooting of AS was justified, I am pretty sure the BRPD legally fired Salamoni. If you read Dabadie's reports, it states procedures that Salamoni broke. Do you think he was fired without any legal assistance?
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:24 pm to NoSaint
What’s your expectation of the police when an armed man puts a gun to another persons head while in a crowd ?
Do they turn around and go home if he doesn’t comply ?
Do they ask pretty please after the first polite attempt fails?
At what point do you want them to over power (via emotion or muscle) the armed person to neutralize the threat he poses.
The reality is that the only person that truly had a choice that night is AS. He could have chosen to comply with Lake’s initial polite and respectful commands. He pulled his arm from Lake and gave the officers multiple choices , none of which was a guarantee to resolve the situation and the one some of you suggest ( backing off) leaves him as an armed threat in a crowd.
Again , what’s your expectation of the police when an armed man who points a gun at someone and refuses to comply with initial requests to put his hands on the car so they can safely and quietly disarm him ?
Do they turn around and go home if he doesn’t comply ?
Do they ask pretty please after the first polite attempt fails?
At what point do you want them to over power (via emotion or muscle) the armed person to neutralize the threat he poses.
The reality is that the only person that truly had a choice that night is AS. He could have chosen to comply with Lake’s initial polite and respectful commands. He pulled his arm from Lake and gave the officers multiple choices , none of which was a guarantee to resolve the situation and the one some of you suggest ( backing off) leaves him as an armed threat in a crowd.
Again , what’s your expectation of the police when an armed man who points a gun at someone and refuses to comply with initial requests to put his hands on the car so they can safely and quietly disarm him ?
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:28 pm to Saltwatersoul04
I never said this needed to go to court. However, the whole situation was handled poorly.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 10:38 pm to Bmath
if it wasn't necessary then why did you bring up court in the first place?
Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:37 pm to Miketheseventh
If BRPD has the same civil service policy as most depts the chief did not follow it.
The city will not show the public their error in firing him over emotions not facts.
At worst he should have had a suspension.
I seen this happen a few times in another dept and it will be silently settled to keep thing quiet.
The City of BR will end up settling for x amount of years pay plus legal fees. Then they will have an agreement not to disclose the settlement.
It will never go to court and details of the settlement will never go public.
The city will not show the public their error in firing him over emotions not facts.
At worst he should have had a suspension.
I seen this happen a few times in another dept and it will be silently settled to keep thing quiet.
The City of BR will end up settling for x amount of years pay plus legal fees. Then they will have an agreement not to disclose the settlement.
It will never go to court and details of the settlement will never go public.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:49 pm to PrivatePublic
Good luck proving it ? Every other officer has body cams. It's easy to start with every body cam entry coinciding with an officer complaint, because most likely some thug thought they were too aggressive. You are so naiive if you think that Salamoni was fired for cursing and being aggressive. That same thing has probably happened ten times this month already. He was fired purely for political purposes and his own chief admitted it when he said it wouldn't even be a conversation if Alton had been white.
Posted on 4/14/18 at 12:13 am to Sao
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He should do as told and comply with the decision.
Best answer of this thread.
I’ve never been a cop sympathizer and I have good reasons for feeling that way. BUT, my belief from the beginning of this was that Sterling was completely wrong and got himself deservingly shot 6 times. I never wavered from that UNTIL I saw that last video come out. Salamoni definitely escalated that situation. While Sterling was doing plenty of shite wrong, Salamoni burst on the scene like a damn maniac. I don’t care the situation, a good cop doesn’t act that way. frick him. I’m glad he didn’t get charged for murder but I sure as hell am glad he got fired. I hope he loses his appeal and I hope he loses his case that he’ll eventually file. Again, I was hardcore on his side until his body cam showed how much of an a-hole and madman he was. Officer Lake meanwhile, handled himself with class and even-temperedly and I’m pretty confident that if Salamoni wouldn’t have shown up, none of us would have never even heard the name Alton sterling and most importantly, 3 fine officers and men would still be alive and with their families tonight.
This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 12:16 am
Posted on 4/14/18 at 12:15 am to Miketheseventh
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Salamoni appeals his firing
As he should! But the administration is......not the same color........so.....
Posted on 4/14/18 at 12:21 am to Jimmy2shoes
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But the administration is......not the same color.
THEY ALL BE THE BLUE KLUX KLAN............ARRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!
Posted on 4/14/18 at 12:42 am to johnnyrocket
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I seen this happen a few times in another dept and it will be silently settled to keep thing quiet.
The City of BR will end up settling for x amount of years pay plus legal fees.
I'm going to go ahead and call BS on this.
Show me one time a person in Louisiana (civil service or not) has sued an employer for wrongful termination and got a settlement - where the firing wasn't due to discrimination based on race, gender, nationality, or disability and it wasn't due to whistleblowing.
Show me ONE case where the person got paid more than back pay.
Hell, who is suing and losing? The kind of ignorant person that thinks they can win a case like that in an at-will employment state can't afford a lawyer, and no lawyer is going to take that case on a contingency. There should be court documents that shows the cases were filed even if they were settled.
You've "seen this happen a few times" so it shouldn't be hard.
hint: it's never happened. Short of there being a police union employment contract built into a collective bargaining agreement, the powers are limited to being able to re-instate him with back pay. That's it.
This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 8:49 am
Posted on 4/14/18 at 6:48 am to Miketheseventh
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You knew this was coming. The day he was fired i told my SO that he would appeal his firing. He will win his appeal because he was not fired by civil service protocol (not to mention he did nothing wrong by the police protocol either). He was fired for one reason and everyone knows the reason was SWB wanted him fired. He will also win his lawsuit whenever it is filed and then ruled upon. Then SWB will have BR on the hook for millions in a settlement. This is just the beginning of a long process.
I believe this is why he was fired. Allowed the BRPD to save face with the black community and opened the door to a multimillion dollar lawsuit. Im sure all this was explained to Salamoni before it happened and his firing came as no surprise to him.
Posted on 4/14/18 at 7:13 am to BeepNode
If they settled outside of court how would anyone have access to the agreements?
Posted on 4/14/18 at 7:17 am to michael corleone
quote:
What’s your expectation of the police when an armed man puts a gun to another persons head while in a crowd ?
Do they turn around and go home if he doesn’t comply ?
Do they ask pretty please after the first polite attempt fails?
At what point do you want them to over power (via emotion or muscle) the armed person to neutralize the threat he poses.
The reality is that the only person that truly had a choice that night is AS. He could have chosen to comply with Lake’s initial polite and respectful commands. He pulled his arm from Lake and gave the officers multiple choices , none of which was a guarantee to resolve the situation and the one some of you suggest ( backing off) leaves him as an armed threat in a crowd.
Again , what’s your expectation of the police when an armed man who points a gun at someone and refuses to comply with initial requests to put his hands on the car so they can safely and quietly disarm him ?
Oh, you mean does a completely different situation excuse his behavior?
I haven’t been in a ton of hostage negotiations but I wasn’t aware that waiving guns around screaming that you are going to fricking kill that mother fricker is the most effective approach to a guy with a hostage in a crowded area
I’d assumed you would keep the guy on balance, clear the crowd, and work on de-escalation
Posted on 4/14/18 at 7:25 am to NoSaint
He should no longer be a cop, he fricked that up
Now we’re going to have to pay for a settlement for this Juiced up Cop who was only around because of his family ties to BRPD
Now we’re going to have to pay for a settlement for this Juiced up Cop who was only around because of his family ties to BRPD
Posted on 4/14/18 at 7:26 am to BatonRougeBuckeye
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believe this is why he was fired. Allowed the BRPD to save face with the black community and opened the door to a multimillion dollar lawsuit. Im sure all this was explained to Salamoni before it happened and his firing came as no surprise to him.
Again, multimillion? What do you think the multiplier is on his annual salary in a suit like that?
Y’all fired me instead of just suspending me! Now give me 50 years pay!
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