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re: Blaine Salamoni appeals his firing
Posted on 4/14/18 at 11:32 am to Saltwatersoul04
Posted on 4/14/18 at 11:32 am to Saltwatersoul04
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I agree with everything you said. I'm playing the hypothetical with this fricktard to show how him stupid and far fetched his what ifs are.
And there it is. The only what ifs allowed by people like you in situations like these are ones that paint cops in the best possible light. Anything less is stupid and far fetched.
Thanks for proving my point.
Posted on 4/14/18 at 11:35 am to Open Your Eyes
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So he's protesting and not just doing as he's told by law enforcement? Surely a justified shooting is in his very near future.
You are fricking brain damaged. Seriously. An implied analogy between following legal procedures to challenge and administrative decision and a thug resisting arrest?
Posted on 4/14/18 at 11:38 am to Open Your Eyes
And the only what ifs by people like you involve the officer using his position as a police officer to inflict harm on others because of personal reasons, anger problems or just enjoyment like it's a built in bonus that comes with the job.
Thanks for proving my point.
Thanks for proving my point.
Posted on 4/14/18 at 11:46 am to Saltwatersoul04
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And the only what ifs by people like you involve the officer using his position as a police officer to inflict harm on others because of personal reasons, anger problems or just enjoyment like it's a built in bonus that comes with the job.
To counter the absurdity of people like you propagating the idea that cops can do no wrong because their jobs are dangerous sometimes? Yes, I'll gladly insert opposite and equally absurd what ifs into the discussion.
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Thanks for proving my point.
Your response to a perfect plausible and reasonable scenario was to insert an absurd what if in attempt to justify inappropriate police behavior. When that is thr Wn in your face, you call what ifs stupid and far fetched.
You have no point.
This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 11:47 am
Posted on 4/14/18 at 11:46 am to Open Your Eyes
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And there it is. The only what ifs allowed by people like you in situations like these are ones that paint cops in the best possible light. Anything less is stupid and far fetched.
Thanks for proving my point.
Eyes: OPEN [SHUT]
Posted on 4/14/18 at 11:50 am to johnnyrocket
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If BRPD has the same civil service policy as most depts the chief did not follow it.
The city will not show the public their error in firing him over emotions not facts.
At worst he should have had a suspension.
I seen this happen a few times in another dept and it will be silently settled to keep thing quiet.
The City of BR will end up settling for x amount of years pay plus legal fees. Then they will have an agreement not to disclose the settlement.
It will never go to court and details of the settlement will never go public.
Can you provide some facts to back this up?
This was a process that took over a year and a half.
Do I think AS is dead because of his own actions? Absolutely. If he wouldn't have pointed a gun at someone who called 911 the police would not have gone to that location looking for someone who fit AS description.
Once the police arrived, they had to assume the guy who met the description was armed. That likely played a factor in how aggressive Salamoni was. He had the gun to his head telling him "I will blow your fricking head off". In this situation AS was shot on the ground, when he was reaching for his pocket, which had a gun in it.
At the time, on AS knew that if he got caught with a gun, he was going jail for probably the rest of his life.
Now let's look at it another way. Let's say you are at work, you decide to go out and sit in your car/truck, where you have a concealed weapon. Some jackass who has it out for you, decides he is going to call 911 on you and make up a story and tell the 911 operator that when they were passing by your car, you pulled your gun on them and told them to never pass by your vehicle again.
In reality, you are minding your own business. As the police pull up you are standing outside of your vehicle, learning inside of it putting your lunch away and getting ready to go back in. Police are going in assuming you armed. The rush you and next thing you know you, there you are... With a gun to your head and the police is yelling at you that he will blow your fricking head off.
How are you going to react? In that situation, you were doing nothing wrong. In those several seconds, you are going to think "what the hell is going on? What did I do?". If you or anyone else was in this situation, would you be okay with Salamoni being one of the policeman that comes out to that call?
Posted on 4/14/18 at 11:54 am to Open Your Eyes
If you read my previous responses in the thread I said I didn't agree with the way Salamoni approached the situation. So I never said he did no wrong, actually the opposite that I didn't agree with how he approached the situation. what exactly did you say that was perfectly plausible and reasonable? Do you know Salamoni and know he was on steroids or his wife was cheating on him or he was racist? If not then how could these seem reasonable and plausible to you?
Posted on 4/14/18 at 12:06 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Or maybe, salamoni was so distraught after finding out his wife was cheating on him, mostly due to the fact he couldn't get it up anymore thanks to all the roids, and decided he was going to release his anger by executing someone and just saying he felt threatened after so he wouldn't be have to face any serious reprucussion?
WTF???????????????
Posted on 4/14/18 at 12:10 pm to dukke v
Evidently that is a perfectly reasonable and plausible scenario.
Posted on 4/14/18 at 12:10 pm to OweO
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In reality, you are minding your own business
Was AS minding his own biz///// no he was dealing drugs while carrying a gun he should not have had.......
Posted on 4/14/18 at 12:15 pm to dukke v
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Was AS minding his own biz///// no he was dealing drugs while carrying a gun he should not have had.......
Did you read my post?
I think the shooting was justified since he was reaching for his pocket that had the gun in it.
But let's say they received that same call and it was someone else.. Who didn't have a rap sheet and a gun?
Posted on 4/14/18 at 12:16 pm to dukke v
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Or maybe, salamoni was so distraught after finding out his wife was cheating on him, mostly due to the fact he couldn't get it up anymore thanks to all the roids, and decided he was going to release his anger by executing someone and just saying he felt threatened after so he wouldn't be have to face any serious reprucussion?
This is stupid and you spelled repercussion wrong.
Posted on 4/14/18 at 12:32 pm to OweO
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.. Who didn't have a rap sheet and a gun?
How do we know that the officers knew that he had a rap sheet???? I think you are missing part of the story Chris.... AS KNEW if he got arrested while having a gun would put him away for at least 40 years... Even though he was jacked up on drugs at the time , I believe that he knew what was coming... His biggest mistake was pulling the gun in the 1st place.....
Posted on 4/14/18 at 12:44 pm to Open Your Eyes
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This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 4/14/18 at 1:59 pm to statman34
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A friend of mine who used to work for EMS said that unless you spoke a certain way to a certain clientele of people, they simply would not listen or understand you. In other words, speak the way they speak so that they comply.
I understand that you have to do what you have to do in certain situations, but I'm just saying he seemed over the top real fast in comparison to the other cop. Sterling eventually got what he got because of who he was, but the situation still could have been handled a little better.
Posted on 4/14/18 at 2:12 pm to CBLSU316
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Or......if a convicted felon wasn’t out waving a pistol around...........we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. Don’t forgot what put the ball into motion.
I don’t disagree with you. That’s why I don’t think Salamoni deserves to be charged. Sterling started this shite and Salamoni ran up on a dangerous situation. No doubt whatsoever about that. But, I don’t think the proper procedure there was to busy up on the scene like a madman screaming about fricking shooting him like he did. What if, just what if it was a mistaken or identity and that would have been you that they thought he the gun. I wouldn’t want Salamoni scaring the absolute frick out of me like that. I’m not a cop and I respect why they do, but my opinion is that Salamoni made a bad situation much much worse. For that, he should be fired. Just my unqualified opinion.
Posted on 4/14/18 at 2:32 pm to supadave3
I’m tend to agree with you.....BS came in hot as hell.
I’ve thought about the mistaken identity too but the 911 call said a black man, red shirt, selling Cd’s in front of the store. That’s pretty specific.....
It just irks me that the public generally forgets the root cause of that altercation.
Like the store owner that shot the teenager for stealing beer......he absolutely shouldn’t have shot the kid over a beer. However if the kid isn’t stealing things then we aren’t having this conversation.
I’ve thought about the mistaken identity too but the 911 call said a black man, red shirt, selling Cd’s in front of the store. That’s pretty specific.....
It just irks me that the public generally forgets the root cause of that altercation.
Like the store owner that shot the teenager for stealing beer......he absolutely shouldn’t have shot the kid over a beer. However if the kid isn’t stealing things then we aren’t having this conversation.
This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 4/14/18 at 2:40 pm to supadave3
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and I respect why they do, but my opinion is that Salamoni made a bad situation much much worse. For that, he should be fired. Just my unqualified opinion.
AGREED............
Posted on 4/14/18 at 2:56 pm to supadave3
I respect your opinion and agree he came in overboard, I just think it didn't warrant a firing. The 2 years off and having your name and family dragged through the mud on local as well as national news will prevent him from approaching another situation like he did this one. My just as unqualified opinion.
Posted on 4/14/18 at 4:16 pm to Saltwatersoul04
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, I just think it didn't warrant a firing.
Sorry.. But the way he acted means he should have been fired...
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