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re: Billion Dollar Bridge Project Stopped Half Way Through over Safety Concerns
Posted on 11/15/19 at 1:25 pm to Harry Caray
Posted on 11/15/19 at 1:25 pm to Harry Caray
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shotty workmanship
shoddy
shawty
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 1:38 pm to TxWadingFool
so they hire the same "all women" engineering team that proved themselves to be inept and incompetent with the other collapse?
way to go, give those who demostrated their inability to do the job without total and complete failure another chance
way to go, give those who demostrated their inability to do the job without total and complete failure another chance
Posted on 11/15/19 at 1:40 pm to High C
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Will this connect Corpus to the Portland area?
Yes, they are building the new taller bridge to allow for the new VLCC ships to enter the inner harbor to be loaded, the large pipelines coming in from the Permian Basin all dead end down there. Here's a drawing of the new one against the current one.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 1:44 pm to keakar
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so they hire the same "all women" engineering team that proved themselves to be inept and incompetent with the other collapse?
Well in the defense of TXDot this project started more than two years before the collapse happened in Florida.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 1:48 pm to bad93ex
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Came into the thread expecting something in Louisiana.
Louisiana doesn’t have a billion dollars to spend on a project unless the feds pay all of it.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 1:53 pm to TxWadingFool
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Good to see TxDot doing their job, better to catch issues now rather than waiting for a collapse
Most Texas thing ever.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 1:57 pm to keakar
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so they hire the same "all women" engineering team that proved themselves to be inept and incompetent with the other collapse?
My understanding of it was that the cable was over tightened in the field prior to install, when they went to loosen the cable in the field it was loosened too fast which caused the collapse.
eta: The design was good, the application was bad.
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:01 pm to TxWadingFool
shoddy
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:05 pm to TxWadingFool
Who cares about function when you can create art?
From their site:
From their site:
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Join the firm that Creates Bridges as Art - that are in harmony with their environment and whose owners have received over 340 design awards, including 3 Presidential Awards through the National Endowment for the Arts. We are expanding and looking for Design Engineers, CADD Designers, Construction Site Engineers and Inspectors with a similar commitment to excellence.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:18 pm to tketaco
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eta: The design was good, the application was bad.
Not really according to the final report:
LINK
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?WASHINGTON (Oct. 22, 2019) — The National Transportation Safety Board determined, during a public board meeting held Tuesday, that load and capacity calculation errors made by FIGG Bridge Engineers, Inc., are the probable cause of the fatal, March 15, 2018, Florida International University pedestrian bridge collapse in Miami.
Contributing to the collapse was Louis Berger’s inadequate peer review, which failed to detect FIGG’s calculation errors in its design of the main span truss member 11/12 nodal region and connection to the bridge deck. The FIGG engineer of record’s failure to identify the significance of structural cracking observed in this node before the collapse, and failure to obtain an independent peer review of the remedial plan to address the cracking, further contributed to the collapse.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:26 pm to bbrownso
Ah ok, now I remember getting my information from an Engineer explaining to me what might have happened. The investigation was on going during that time.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:48 pm to Spelt it rong
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shotty workmanship
shoddy
shawty
shitty
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:56 pm to Martini
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shitty
That is the exact term I wanted to use in the OP
Posted on 11/15/19 at 3:19 pm to TxWadingFool
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Mobile River Bridge Group
Equity Members: InfraRed Capital Partners, Shikun & Binui, Astaldi, and Southland Holdings
Lead Engineering Firm: Figg Bridge Engineers
Lead Contractor: A Joint Venture of Astaldi, Johnson Bros, and Shikun & Binui
Lead Operations and Maintenance: InfraRed Capital Partners (InfraRed Infrastructure V), Astaldi, and Southland Holdings
One of the three bidders for now "cancelled because of tolls" Mobile Bridge, that looks remarkably similar to this one.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 3:23 pm to TxWadingFool
I'd be more scared of some dumbass baw running his barges or ship into it than it collapsing
Posted on 11/15/19 at 4:14 pm to TigersSEC2010
along with larger ship clearance purpose, the new bridge was required to replace the end of life evaluations for the old bridge. the salt air required year around painting which has been discontinued for the last 2 years
Posted on 11/15/19 at 4:19 pm to TigersSEC2010
It would have been 'close enough' for government work.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 4:33 pm to SG_Geaux
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China would just say "frick it" finish the project or else.
The Ryugyong Hotel builder just gave a cap tip.
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 11/15/19 at 4:37 pm to tketaco
Shouldn’t you design with an eye toward idiot-proofing it?
Ought to some way to make overtightening obvious if not impossible
Ought to some way to make overtightening obvious if not impossible
Posted on 11/15/19 at 10:19 pm to Nawlens Gator
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t would have been 'close enough' for government work.
Volod wouldnt have let that pass.
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