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re: Bike lane controversy on Glenmore Ave in BR
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:19 pm to gmrkr5
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:19 pm to gmrkr5
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anyone want to set the over/under on how long before residents property begins to get vandalized by these "cyclist"?
The bike chained to the Benz on Friday to troll the cyclists was damaged, apparently.
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Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:20 pm to Golfer
This was posted a few minutes ago on the Nextdoor discussion and really sums it all up.
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Last night, I took a ride down Capital Heights from jefferson to Glenmore, then up Glenmore and back to Claycut. What i observed is that not one car was in the bike lane anywhere on Capital Heights or Glenmore. I also observed that there were almost no trash/recycle bins in the bike lane on either street. three households had locations available off the bike lane, but they chose to encroach.
My experience with Glenmore is that residents generally don't park in the bike lane, and that bikers generally have no problem riding in the bike lane. Also, residents all along the bike lane occasionally block the lane in front of their houses. If i am delivering furniture in my front door, i block it for a few minutes. if i'm working in the flower bed at the corner of glenmore and capital heights, i may block the bike lane, or a glenmore traffic lane for a few minutes. when a moving van delivers furniture anywhere in the area, lanes are blocked while they unload.
To say that you didn't know it is illegal to park in a bike path is less that forthcoming. to demand that no one can ever park in a bike path for any reason is ridiculous. Both sides have good arguments and both sides have absurdly extreme goals.
What changed after blissfully coexisting for 8 years with a less than perfect situation? I personally think it was the contractors who blocked the bike lanes daily for what seems like months on end. It appears that this problem was solved, and the remaining imperfections are workable.
If we can stop talking, stop pointing fingers, stop saying hooray for our side, and simply bee nice to one another, everyone can go home, claim victory among yourselves and live to fight another day if a battle worthy of the fight were to appear - this one is not.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:22 pm to SUB
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Is it too much to ask guests to park on a side street and walk a block? I'm not being sarcastic. I don't know how far the walk is.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:22 pm to Motorboat
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when they suggested making the lane a shoulder, the bikers hated that idea. what's the big freaking deal? It's a still a lane to bike in on a street with relatively little traffic.
because, like I've stated a million times in this thread, it isn't just about this particular street
removing the dedicated bike lane, which is what making the lane a shoulder would be, would set a bad precedent throughout the city
bikers feel that is a step backwards, not forward
the residents wanted the bike lane, but were unaware of the laws/rules associated with the bike lane, and now they are made because some bikers want the laws/rules enforced
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:36 pm to Golfer
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The bike chained to the Benz on Friday to troll the cyclists was damaged, apparently.
Wait. What?
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:38 pm to Salmon
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because, like I've stated a million times in this thread, it isn't just about this particular street
removing the dedicated bike lane, which is what making the lane a shoulder would be, would set a bad precedent throughout the city
bikers feel that is a step backwards, not forward
the residents wanted the bike lane, but were unaware of the laws/rules associated with the bike lane, and now they are made because some bikers want the laws/rules enforced
Do cyclists have to have a license or registration to ride on the streets? Is there any required insurance to be held by cyclists? Are there laws that require rear view mirrors, etc? Is there a using the road course to take?
It is passed time cyclists are treated like they want everyone else treated and how everyone else that uses the roads is treated.
ETA: Any time you hear of anything related to cyclists, the cyclists are right and everyone else should go to hell. Everyone else is at fault and the cyclists are victims.
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:43 pm to lsu13lsu
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Do cyclists have to have a license or registration to ride on the streets?
Nope.
*I have a drivers license and learned bike laws while in drivers education like everyone else.
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Is there any required insurance to be held by cyclists?
Nope.
*I have health insurance and my bike is covered by my homeowners insurance.
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Are there laws that require rear view mirrors, etc?
Laws require lights. No laws requiring rear view mirrors.
*I have a rear view mirror on my bike
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It is passed time cyclists are treated like they want everyone else treated
To be able to use the road without getting yelled at?
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and how everyone else that uses the roads is treated.
well until the day that all the "small government" conservatives force cyclists to have all these government regulations, I guess we should just, what? Not ride our bikes?
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Any time you hear of anything related to cyclists, the cyclists are right and everyone else should go to hell. Everyone else is at fault and the cyclists are victims.
Well that is not true at all and just illustrates your agenda.
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:44 pm to Salmon
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Is there any required insurance to be held by cyclists?
Nope.
*I have health insurance and my bike is covered by my homeowners insurance.
Does your home owner's insurance cover another person's property or is everything always a greedy no good get out of my way drivers fault?
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:45 pm to lsu13lsu
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Does your home owner's insurance cover another person's property or is everything always a greedy no good get out of my way drivers fault?
No.
I would pay out of pocket if I damaged someone's property with my bike.
There have been numerous instances where the cyclists was ticketed for causing a wreck and had to pay for damages.
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:46 pm to Salmon
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No.
I would pay out of pocket if I damaged someone's property with my bike.
I would do the same with my car but the government won't let me. I think cyclist need to carry insurance if they want to be road equals.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:47 pm to TigerBR1111
If you can't afford a driveway that fits your cars, why is it the city's job to provide you a parking spot?
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:48 pm to lsu13lsu
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I think cyclist need to carry insurance if they want to be road equals.
start the petition, I guess
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:50 pm to Salmon
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start the petition, I guess
Also, there is the issue of the gas tax that helps pay for infrastructure. How are cyclists contributing like car owners?
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:51 pm to lsu13lsu
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How are cyclists contributing like car owners?
the same way you do
by buying gas for their cars when needed
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:53 pm to lsu13lsu
quote:Once they start racking up a body count and posing so much of a threat that we need to build traffic lights and spend millions maintaining the damage they do to the roads, you'll have a point.
I think cyclist need to carry insurance if they want to be road equals.
The cars are the ones in the way. That's why you have to go through red tape to drive one.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 4:02 pm to lsu13lsu
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I would do the same with my car but the government won't let me. I think cyclist need to carry insurance if they want to be road equals.
Too bad. Louisiana law does not require insurance for bicycles. Deal with it.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 4:03 pm to lsu13lsu
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Also, there is the issue of the gas tax that helps pay for infrastructure. How are cyclists contributing like car owners?
Property tax. Income tax. Gas tax. Are you really this stupid? Become smarter.
I'm not 100% sure but I believe the gas tax is used for state roads. Not local.
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 10/6/15 at 4:03 pm to Salmon
Salmon. Apparently you have been on this site arguing with folks all day as every time I check in you are arguing with someone new.
Please give me a specific solution to the Glenmore issue. Please make it very specific. Or could it be that you just are an argumentative type that offers no solution?
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Please give me a specific solution to the Glenmore issue. Please make it very specific. Or could it be that you just are an argumentative type that offers no solution?
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Posted on 10/6/15 at 4:09 pm to lsu13lsu
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Is there any required insurance to be held by cyclists
They probably should.
Cyclists actually collide with pedestrians pretty frequently. Serious or even fatal injuries have exposed cyclists to massive liability....and not everyone has homeowners insurance that covers them for something like that. It's cheap and should be required for road use.
I've still never seen cyclists face any consequence for not following the rules of the road....and I ride enough to know that well more than half of us ignore most traffic laws out there.
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 10/6/15 at 4:09 pm to Salmon
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Salmon
Dude, with all due respect, you are in Alaska and you have no idea what peoples' knowledge or feelings are down here.
come stay in the Glenmore hood for a few days and then you can butt in.
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