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re: Biden admin buys 10 million courses of Pfizer’s Covid treatment pill for $5 BILLION

Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:23 am to
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:23 am to

And from the "article" linked:

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Campbell showed the molecular structure of Pfizer’s new drug and compared it to the molecular shape of ivermectin. He conceded the two “are completely different looking molecules” which led him to conclude “it’s absolutely fine to patent” the Pfizer drug.
Posted by PentagonTiger
Taylor Hall
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:23 am to
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As with anything do your own research and make your own conclusions


What qualifies as research? Articles from your own echo chamber? I doubt you you are reading any peer reviewed articles from Lancet, Natural, American Journal of Medicine, or New England Journal of Medicine.
This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 7:24 am
Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:23 am to
Appreciate you telling me what my point was, Tigerlaff. Without you I wouldn't be sure what I was conveying.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:24 am to
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And from the "article" linked:




Yea buddy which I acknowledged in my post
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:24 am to
Coz it aint got shite to do with stopping covid
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:25 am to
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Pfizer has agreed to supply the Trump administration with 100 million additional vaccine doses in a $1.95 billion deal


Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:25 am to
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peer reviewed


I remember just a few months ago many Covidians here telling me peer-review doesn't mean shite. Make up your minds.
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:28 am to
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Biden admin buys 10 million courses of Pfizer’s Covid treatment pill for $5 BILLION


For a government that’s broke they sure be spending our money like it’s theirs.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:28 am to
Dr John Campbell has a PhD in Bioscience Education for nursing he is not a specialist in any form to drug discovery.
Posted by PentagonTiger
Taylor Hall
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:29 am to
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I remember just a few months ago many Covidians here telling me peer-review doesn't mean shite. Make up your minds


If it’s from a reputable medical journal then I wouldn’t question it. But when people say I did my own “research” that’s code for: “I found an article online that agrees with my viewpoints and justifies what I want.” In no way is it actual professionals conducting experiments and reading legit medical journals. Not saying only one side does this either. It’s just stupid what some people qualify as “research” these days.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:30 am to
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There was a thread here a while back that had the information. I forget who started it or what the links were.


Strannix started it and it was thoroughly hashed out. The idea came from a single tweet by a third world retweeter claiming it was "evergreening" and was picked up by the Front Line Doctors with zero evidence. The molecule is completely different sharing no base compound and a completely different MOA. If you read the whole thread either the one here or the one on the Poli board it was clear the drugs have nothing in common.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:31 am to
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Dr John Campbell has a PhD in Bioscience Education for nursing he is not a specialist in any form to drug discovery.



That's great. What about the papers he used to come to his conclusions? Want to discredit them too?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:37 am to
Long, very condescending article on why the Pfizer drug and ivermectin are not the same.

This guy goes into a lot of the actual molecule with papers cited. Read it and come to your own conclusion.

I’m just happy we are coming up with drugs to treat positive patients, which means we don’t need vaccine mandates.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:37 am to
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For a government that’s broke they sure be spending our money like it’s theirs.


All in the game, Yo. Big Pharma, Medical, Military, Tech and many more have an open checkbook depending on what narratives Washington DC decide to run out there in a given political climate surge. The entirety of Washington DC is a ponzi scheme.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111497 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:39 am to
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All in the game, Yo. Big Pharma, Medical, Military, Tech and many more have an open checkbook depending on what narratives Washington DC decide to run out there in a given political climate surge. The entirety of Washington DC is a ponzi scheme.
And “conservatives” are part of it these days too. They spend like mother frickers as well
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42293 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:40 am to
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If you read the whole thread either the one here or the one on the Poli board it was clear the drugs have nothing in common.


They target the same protein code. However it appears the Pfizer one can achieve the required concentration from lab trials in the blood stream far more easily than ivermectin can.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:41 am to
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Campbell also pointed to a paper from Frontiers in Microbiology, which he said showed ivermectin not only attacked and bound to COVID’s spike protein which stopped it from infecting the cell, but also bound to the cell receptor.

So in other words, Ivermectin binds to exterior structures on the virus rendering it dysfunctional. The Pfizer drug prevents the virus from making the right proteins to even build those exterior structures in the first place.

So yeah, just because they both have the same purpose (attacking covid) doesn't even come close to making them "basically the same drug."

Also, your link goes to a 404 not found error on some page called Children's Defense Health, whatever that is.

ETA: Ahh, now I see the OP has been edited to reflect a more reasonable position and the link fixed. I guess it didn't really pass muster after all.
This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 7:48 am
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:43 am to

No doubt. They're all on the same team. Just have to make sure each keeps the divide charade up w the red meat.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4400 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:43 am to
The papers he cited have nothing to do with comparing the two drugs so I fail to see the point.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:46 am to
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The papers he cited have nothing to do with comparing the two drugs so I fail to see the point.



The papers fit the narrative that Ivermectin does prevent Covid and may even do a better job of it yet doesn't cost $500 per pill and is already readily available.
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