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re: Before you start gutting your house please read!

Posted on 8/16/16 at 7:30 am to
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 7:30 am to
I just had $40k left over from my $190k SBA loan, after the grant payed off the rest.

The government is slow, you'll likely have to go the same route and take out a low interest loan to start your recovery. We didn't know of the grant when we took out the loan, we were just going to owe $370k for a $200k home. shite happens though.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 7:31 am to
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The government gave us a $150,000 grant and I pay $168/mo for 30 years on the rest. IDK, lived in FEMA camper in my front yard for 8 months. That's all I remember.


Sounds like a way fricking easier way to get ahead in life than doing all this working and buying insurance and investments shite I've been doing. Where do I sign up?
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41888 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 7:32 am to
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Well ok, Mr Bad News Bobby


ya, screw the truth, riight?

Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 7:37 am to
It was fricking awesome, let me tell you.

Let's get this straight, they bailed out Countrywide...and all of the mortgage holders with the Katrina deal. I'd have been happy to bulldoze the fricker and build what I could afford. The collateral on my loan was/is shite and the banks stepped into my contract freely and willingly. They got bailed out and I had to fix a complete POS with only some fricking carnies to help.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
30404 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 7:38 am to
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I am a fema inspector


So you are one of THEM :(
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
16664 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 7:38 am to
Basically the fema inspections work like this. If your whole house is destroyed they take the sf of the whole house and that's about it. There is a checkbox or something that says completely destroyed. At that point you would get paid for all necessaties at whatever rate they have set for each little thing based on the size of your house. I think after Katrina each house was authorized 1 tv valued at $150 or something like that. Insurance companies arena whole different animal though.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 7:44 am to
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If people don't have flood insurance, and FEMA helps them anyway, then why have flood insurance to begin with? Just curious.


I think this kind of goes back to what one of the previous posters said. FEMA isn't there to make sure you are back to where you were before. They are just there as a safety net so that citizens aren't homeless. Your insurance is there to replace the value of what you have.

For example, if you lost a bunch of filet mignon when your freezer went out, FEMA isn't going to replace it with more prime steak. You may get some MRE's so that you don't go hungry though. Your insurance is what you have to replace things at value.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 7:55 am to
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Sounds like a way fricking easier way to get ahead in life than doing all this working and buying insurance and investments shite I've been doing. Where do I sign up?




Hyperbole much?

Average annual premium for a $250,000 house and $100,000 of contents coverage in a preferred zone like X is $474/year. FEMA maximum grant is roughly $32,000. You're more than welcome to stop paying flood insurance, but I doubt you really will.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 7:58 am to
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If people don't have flood insurance, and FEMA helps them anyway, then why have flood insurance to begin with? Just curious.




You could say the same about any government assistant program. They all have people who abuse the system, but by and large, it is much, much better to NOT qualify for assistance than it is to qualify for it. Why work if you can get government benefits? The answer is that lifestyle is not all it's cracked up to be on Tiger Droppings.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74870 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 8:03 am to
Photograph everything you throw away. Insurance ages items if you can't prove the age. I had a lot if clothes they were saying where 5 &8 years old so they didn't have to pay full value. Insurance looks to depreciate everything.
Make a list of all your possessions, you will need that come insurance claim time. Every shirt, tie, pair of shoes, listed.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
16267 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 8:09 am to
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KG6

Probably the best explanation in this whole thread. FEMA = basic essentials not much else, flood insurance = somewhat close to before.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18704 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 8:16 am to
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We really need you NOLA folks with experience to give some do's and don'ts of dealing with flood recovery. Most of the effected people here have no experience dealing with any type of insurance claim.



I was a teenager living with my parents when Katrina hit so I don't remember everything but we didn't have to take pictures or follow any of this process. We didn't have smartphones back then and we barely had an internet connection to use. Most people didn't even have a digital camera. So, things might be a bit different now...
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 8:18 am to
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Most people are just annoying
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 8:50 am to
I think FEMA benefits for those without insurance only applies to people who lived in non-flood zones.
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 8:52 am to
Adding, when we flooded in New Orleans in the 80's, we left everything as is, except for the carpeting, until the agent came out to asses needs. If a house was flooded to the max, you can't live there anyway, so why rush to gut it?
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36654 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 8:56 am to
I was dropping all kinds of nasty words when my wife was videoing. It won't take but about 15 minutes for me to edit out the audio.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40227 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:36 am to
Talk to the time and date stamp more on pictures. I took a bunch of pictures and but time and date isn't posted in the photo but the info has a timestamp.
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8795 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:44 am to
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I am a fema inspector even though I haven't done it in a while. FEMA doesn't give a shite what type of tile, carpet, tv or whatever else you have. You think because you have a 70" tv that they will give a shite? The government has set prices for every little thing like a lightswitch or whatever is a set price. Everyone gets the same amounts for the same type stuff. Flooring is flooring no matter what type you have. They only have one price for each thing. It's already se


Of course if you're employed by the government, your prices are set at the "high end". If you have a 25" black and white tv, you get credit for a 70" HD curved TV. Laminate flooring? You get credit for true hardwood...and so forth...IF you're a government employee of course. Oh, and FEMA takes care of their own, first and foremost.

This post was edited on 8/16/16 at 9:45 am
Posted by BIGJLAW
Member since Mar 2013
9057 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:56 am to
From someone whose home was flooded a little over a year ago in Alabama thru our flood of the century, still have bad memories.
What I would do as some have stated, take multiple pictures of the same thing if needed. Log everything that was covered in water regardless if you can use it or not, take pictures. Take pictures of where the water mark was and when taking carpet, drywall etc, put everything in separate piles. Depending on how high water got in cut your drywall 4 ft and remove drywall and any insulation ASAP. The insurance or Fema will tell you that you get 4 Ft unless it went higher than 4 ft. They key now is to get your how dry, quickly. Get fans blowing and a dehumidifier. Sometimes your AC will still work even after the flood, turn it on as it acts as a dehumidifier as well. Go to Home Depot or Lowes and they have an outdoor bleach, once you get all of your drywall, carpet, flooring, insulation etc and your fans going spray the bleach to kill any mold that will come with this. Don't let contractors come in and they will and get you to sign anything, my neighbors got taken for $25K. If you can do some of the work yourself then do it. I know that there are tons of other information that I am forgetting. My prayers are with you guys as I have been following this closely. You will get thru this even though it is hard but you will get thru it, Thanks be to God. If I can help in any other information PM me or ask the question and I will tell you what I went thru and how I handled it.
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:14 am to
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Don't let contractors come in and they will and get you to sign anything, my neighbors got taken for $25K.


THIS. I have heard horror stories of people getting taken and have had some friends duped as well. A lot of scammers out there or unlicensed contractors (basically the same thing).
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