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re: Beer cans at HS football game lead 75 students to be drug, alcohol tested
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:46 am to Jcorye1
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:46 am to Jcorye1
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Second of all, I think you need to stand up against the mass drug/alcohol testing of minors because of massively insufficient evidence.
I would say finding beer cans by theme that weren't there before is ample evidence.
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:46 am to saint tiger225
At my HS the running joke was that if you wanted to blaze you had to do it with the headmaster's kid so you wouldn't get suspended.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:47 am to saint tiger225
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Came by and smelled all our hands
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:47 am to Dire Wolf
I'm sure everyone in this thread saying the school is in the right would be just fine with their employer drug testing every one of their employees because they found a joint in the parking lot.
Right?
Right?
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:48 am to upgrayedd
My high school drug tested the whole school when I was a senior. They told kids that admitted they were going to fail to come forward and receive a lesser punishment. A handful of idiots went and told on themselves. Turns out that it's illegal for a schools teachers to administer screens and must be done by an outside company. All the samples where then inadmissible and the kids that admitted were then suspended.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:49 am to RB10
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I'm sure everyone in this thread saying the school is in the right would be just fine with their employer drug testing every one of their employees because they found a joint in the parking lot.
Right?
I don't do drugs so that would be fine with me. However, most employers as a condition of employment have that right at any time.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:49 am to Janky
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I would say finding beer cans by them that weren't there before is ample evidence
How do you know they weren't there? Also, I hope you don't have a kid who walks down almost any street in Louisiana because according to you that'd be ample evidence
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:50 am to Dire Wolf
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About 75 students ended up being tested at emergency rooms in Morristown, Denville and Dover, DailyRecord.com said. Fewer than five tested positive for alcohol.
great job
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:51 am to Dire Wolf
Kids can't mess up anymore. And people wonder why millennials don't get in fights and all that masculine jazz.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:51 am to Jcorye1
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I hope you don't have a kid who walks down almost any street in Louisiana because according to you that'd be ample evidence
I would have a problem if my kid was walking down the street and the school said he needed to get tested. That is no the same thing as drinking at a school function.
I assumed that like most stadiums it was cleaned before the game.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:51 am to Janky
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So, your kid breaks the law and school policy at a school function and you don't think they should be suspended?
Show me the proof first.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:52 am to Ed Osteen
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My high school drug tested the whole school when I was a senior. They told kids that admitted they were going to fail to come forward and receive a lesser punishment. A handful of idiots went and told on themselves. Turns out that it's illegal for a schools teachers to administer screens and must be done by an outside company. All the samples where then inadmissible and the kids that admitted were then suspended.
I think it's illegal for companies to "throw out a cast net" to catch drug users. It either has to be a random company wide test or the result of reasonable suspicion. Don't see why a public high school should be held to a different standard.
This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 11:00 am
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:52 am to Janky
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I don't do drugs so that would be fine with me
Not the point.
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However, most employers as a condition of employment have that right at any time
Random drug screening =/= grabbing all employees in a single building.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:52 am to jefforize
quote:I don't know what the cost of the would be, but if I was a parent of one of the seventy I would be requesting reimbursement for the cost (and time) for such a ridiculously unnecessary demand.
About 75 students ended up being tested at emergency rooms in Morristown, Denville and Dover, DailyRecord.com said. Fewer than five tested positive for alcohol.
This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 10:53 am
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:53 am to Clyde Tipton
That is what the test is for and not taking the test is an admission of guilt. I feel quite certain this is covered in the school's handbook.
This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 10:54 am
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:53 am to Janky
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I don't do drugs so that would be fine with me. However, most employers as a condition of employment have that right at any time.
That's like saying I have nothing to hide so I don't care if the government tracks my phone.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:55 am to TH03
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That's like saying I have nothing to hide so I don't care if the government tracks my phone.
No, it's not. I have rights as a citizen (supposedly) to some level of privacy. As a student you can be drug tested any time for any reason.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:55 am to RB10
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I'm sure everyone in this thread saying the school is in the right would be just fine with their employer drug testing every one of their employees because they found a joint in the parking lot.
Right?
Yes, on condition that when I'm clean I get a raise. If they fire the guy who tests positive, then I should get a reward for testing negative.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:57 am to Janky
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hat is what the test is for and not taking the test is an admission of guilt.
So in this backwards reality, you have to prove your innocence beyond a reasonable doubt?
Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:00 am to Cosmo
Poor kids. Not even allowed normal rites of passage
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