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re: Bay Area exodus shows no signs of slowing down

Posted on 6/5/18 at 7:50 am to
Posted by AthensTiger
Athens, GA
Member since Jul 2008
2977 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 7:50 am to
They should all move to Oregon. Don't mess with Texas.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42282 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 7:58 am to
Except that local government regulation will not allow for high rise buildings to house More people, effectively limiting the number of people able to live there. That’s not capitalism, that’s government regulation. See Austin as exhibit B as well
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:00 am to

Your voting stats don't have anything to do with the reason they are leaving. According to the article, it's housing cost. I based my entire point on it.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:03 am to
They will infect other states with their politics.

On the bright side they may bring an appreciation for new kinds of restaurants.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:03 am to
quote:

Except that local government regulation will not allow for high rise buildings to house More people, effectively limiting the number of people able to live there. That’s not capitalism, that’s government regulation


Bingo. It’s very hard to create more dense housing or transit oriented development.
Posted by frankenfish
Crofton, MD
Member since Feb 2008
865 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:03 am to
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Lack of affordable housing is not the result of socialism. Its capitalism.


Actually capitalism is about supply and demand; with an increased demand the market would produce an increased supply.

It's the leftist policies from the California gov't that are preventing more housing from being built, preventing the free market from providing a supply of housing in response to this demand. So with the gov't imposed prevention of new housing (reduced supply) the demand for housing caused that artificially reduced supply to cost more. So folks vote with their feet; if they can't afford the restricted housing their moving will eventually allow the supply and demand to even out. Right?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77264 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:07 am to
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Texas
Dumbasses move there and ruin it.
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 8:08 am
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77264 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:12 am to
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Lack of affordable housing is not the result of socialism.

Its capitalism.
How is preventing high rises, allowing for an increase in housing, capitalism?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42282 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:17 am to
It’s not. The government cannot (yet) set prices for anything and everything, and this makes celticdog sad. What she doesn’t understand is that if you artificially limit supply of something, the market will in fact price that commodity appropriately. Let the free market provide a greater supply, costs will go down
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 8:18 am
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18950 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:17 am to
quote:

Texas
quote:

Dumbasses move there and ruin it.
Maybe Austin, but the rest of Texas is safe.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46844 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:25 am to
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frankenfish


You replied to me with a quote I did not make.

Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16653 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:26 am to
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Lack of affordable housing is not the result of socialism.

Its capitalism.



So you believe capitalism is a system that does NOT attempt to meet consumer demand?

Study harder.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59177 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:29 am to
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And locking out actual Texans from the housing market.

Cmon baw nobody cares about Mexicans around here
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84715 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:30 am to
I’m surprised they don’t stay in California and implement rent control and price caps and bring in more Section 8.
Posted by al_cajun
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
2442 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:36 am to
A lot of it has to do with the amount of taxes. I was talking to a guy I work with based out of San Fran and he is considering moving due to taxes and overall cost of living even though his house has been paid for in full.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:43 am to

He would be smart to. Sell at market value, move to Texas, pay cash and live without state tax. He could get 4,000 sf north of 121 for 500k in the right spot. 12-15k in prop taxes per year and the leftovers are for buying a kick arse boat to get drunk on.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43449 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:45 am to
quote:

He would be smart to. Sell at market value, move to Texas, pay cash and live without state tax. He could get 4,000 sf north of 121 for 500k in the right spot. 12-15k in prop taxes per year and the leftovers are for buying a kick arse boat to get drunk on.



Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178994 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:47 am to
IF the demand ever drops, that high handedly will fix the housing issue.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:53 am to

I mean, I'm too old and was too stupid to do it but if a smart IT kid reading can get to the west coast, make some bank and buy property? Do it. Your 10 year plan can bring you back east without debt.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476728 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:54 am to
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Lack of affordable housing is not the result of socialism.

Its capitalism.

government regulations making new building tough and\or super expensive is not"capitalism"
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