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re: Bay Area exodus shows no signs of slowing down

Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:04 am to
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40189 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:04 am to
That same house is 175K in EBR
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104040 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:06 am to
Texas needs to do a PR campaign selling these people on Portland, OR.

Sorry, state’s closed, libs. Moose out front shoulda told ya.
Posted by SanJoseTigerFan
San Jose, CA
Member since Feb 2013
2491 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:08 am to
Govt work and I will be here for next 20 years until retirement
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74858 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:08 am to
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Actually, they don't. An extremely high percentage of the newcomers are paying cash for houses in D/FW. Houses are getting over ask and multiple offers due to the boom in corporate relo here. The Cali refugees are seeing easier times like they've never had.


you completely missed the point baw.
Posted by SanJoseTigerFan
San Jose, CA
Member since Feb 2013
2491 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:08 am to
I’m hoping for Hayward fault to blow up
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24206 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:12 am to
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From someone who travels to San Fran regularly, Im not exactly sure where they could cram more housing


This. I also think its laughable to stay that people are leaving the area due to housing prices. If prices are going up and staying up, that means the market is good not bad. That argument makes no sense.

I agree the California laws are goofy, but unless you want a city full of high rises like half the cities in China, that's the only way to do it. They don't want to become Manhatten and the market is currently allowing it.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11626 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:13 am to
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Texas needs to do a PR campaign selling these people on Portland, OR.

Sorry, state’s closed, libs. Moose out front shoulda told ya.


The exact opposite is happening. Texas govt. is full-court pressing companies and their employees to move. Also, ads for "cheap" land and homes in TX are very common. Developers, local governments, and realtors love the bidding wars, who cares where they move from.

This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 10:14 am
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5358 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:15 am to
quote:

This is not good news. Not for California, but for those places they move to with all their weird arse ideas and messed up value shite.





Dont get worried yet, I read a separate article on the same subject yesterday. A majority of the people leaving San Fran are planning to move to Sacramento. If they stay out there I'm cool with it.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24206 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:18 am to
quote:

Dont get worried yet, I read a separate article on the same subject yesterday. A majority of the people leaving San Fran are planning to move to Sacramento. If they stay out there I'm cool with it.


This too. Most of the hard core libs would not move to Texas. They'd much rather stay poor and live in a blue state then live somewhere like Texas.
Posted by tss22h8
30.4 N 90.9 W
Member since Jan 2007
18793 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:19 am to
quote:

So it’s a story about people’s feelings?
Sure. Isn't that what the Left Coast is all about?
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:20 am to
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Well, the cost of things there is just stupid, especially housing. Way overpriced for what it's truly worth.


If housing in SF Bay area is selling at the current price level it is priced correctly. What something is "truly worth" is what a buyer is willing to pay for it, those buying property in the bay area obviously think it is worth the selling price.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104040 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:23 am to
:facepalm:

This will not end well.

Let’s hope that these Cali people are big believers in zero population growth so that their numbers even out over the long term.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:24 am to
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you completely missed the point baw.



The point of the article isn't politics

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104040 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:26 am to
The problem is that it is a bubble.

The prices will keep increasing until it bursts, at which point we are back in 2008 where people are walking away from mortgages due to being underwater.


There is demand in that area but the prices are artificially high due to the building restrictions and high costs of entry.

At some point a lot of people are going to start selling at once, meaning a glut on the market, at which point everyone is screwed.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53535 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:26 am to
quote:

Wage disparity and the hoarding of wealth are also big factors. 

Everyone has the right to affordable, decent housing.

Affordable, decent housing isn't a right
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:27 am to
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The problem is that it is a bubble.

The prices will keep increasing until it bursts, at which point we are back in 2008 where people are walking away from mortgages due to being underwater.



The 2008 housing crisis and the prices being paid in the Bay Area now have almost nothing in common. Sub prime mortgages and cash buying investors and supply are not the same thing.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111465 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:28 am to
quote:

There is demand in that area but the prices are artificially high due to the building restrictions and high costs of entry.

I just dont agree this is a material reason in the bay area

Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87356 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:30 am to
quote:

Except when they move to places like Texas they enact the same policies that caused them to leave California



goddamnit we didn't move halfway across the country to deal with the same problems we had there!!!!

*votes for Socialist Party of Texas*
*injects heroin*
*forms white dreadlock drum circle*

How does trouble keep finding us!
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104040 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:34 am to
They don’t build apartments out there because set asides for homeless people, rent control, and squatter rights are such an issue that you lose your arse given the costs involved.


If you are going to spend tens of millions on an apartment building, you want people who are able to pay, the ability to evict people who don’t pay, and the ability to raise prices as costs increase.

Those restrictions being placed on you means no new apartments, which in turn means that the costs for actual houses go through the roof.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:35 am to
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Affordable, decent housing isn't a right



this is like Guliani claiming the president can pardon himself, which is the single greatest bag of nonsense ever claimed before a trail.

If Congress agrees it is so. if they differ, its not so.

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