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re: Baw making $450k, can’t make ends meet

Posted on 4/4/21 at 6:53 am to
Posted by Bob Sacamano
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
5294 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 6:53 am to
Your friend is a clown. With that said, I believe thats the norm out here in San Diego. At least in my area.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10713 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 7:03 am to
I know someone who had a million dollars in cash and makes over $30k a month and now lives paycheck to paycheck. Stupidest thing I've ever seen anyone do with money.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70906 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 7:05 am to
If somebody paid me a million a year with a challenge that I had to live paycheck to paycheck I could effortlessly do it. Its easy to live above your means no matter what you make. Bezos could live above his means.
Posted by rph1
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
165 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 7:08 am to
Did I get downvoted for that analysis by the folks that make $450k or $40k? I know it isn’t from a CPA. That assessment is spot on.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
14888 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 7:29 am to
If he makes $450k then he probably has around $225 take home.

Gotta pay those taxes to support those that refuse to work and victimize the taxpayers with impunity.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29855 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 7:51 am to
quote:

How does this happen?


Gambling is normally the issue in these cases.
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3908 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 7:54 am to
quote:

You forgot the FIRST and most important expense - Taxes.


This. With higher income you don’t qualify for many of the tax deductions such as child tax credit, student loan interest or financial aid period if the kids are college students. No tax refunds or stimulus checks.

Here is another possibility if the kids are college age -

Income - $450,000

Taxes - $120,000
Health Insurance - $15,000
Medical (glasses, dentist, etc) - $6,000
House payment - $36,000
Car Payments - $18,000
Auto Insurance - $8,000
Utilities - $6,000
Cell / Dish / Internet - $6,000
Gas - $10,000
Tuition (college) - $48,000
Kids (rent, food, books) -$30,000
Food / Clothes - $12,000
Car Repairs / Lawn / Misc - $15,000
Stuff breaks or needs replacement - $6,000
Vacations - $10,000
Charity - $25,000
401K - $45,000
Eating Out / Entertainment - $12,000
Debt (interest, other) - $12,000
Unplanned expenses - $10,000

Total - $450,000
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23306 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:06 am to
What gets people often times is upkeep and maintenance costs. I have an employee that makes $45,000 that drives a newish BMW. It’s not new, but she just got a repair quote for $1800.

People buy a second home or go on vacation and only look at the upfront cost, they don’t include eating out every night without a budget or the annual maintenance costs on a home or the new furniture the wife needs.

Catches up might quick the more money you have.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175433 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:09 am to
Just needs to sell his uptown house for 1.5 million over asking price and he’ll be fine
Posted by Maderan
Member since Feb 2005
869 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:20 am to
This is very realistic and that breakdown isn't too far off from reality for most of the professionals in that income range. Most value experiences over money and feel like they can always make more money, savings are something to worry about once the kids are done with school.

The real issue is that there are many people making 250k trying to live on that same budget.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
16260 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:58 am to
quote:

Income - $450,000

Taxes - $120,000



Y’all are overestimating the taxes. I’m in a no income tax state but pay self-employment tax and the effective tax rate is about 70% of your estimate. TN cannot be that much better than La.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12587 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 11:19 am to
quote:

Y’all are overestimating the taxes. I’m in a no income tax state but pay self-employment tax and the effective tax rate is about 70% of your estimate. TN cannot be that much better than La.

Federal income tax alone on $450k in income is $118k. That’s with no deductions, but to get to 70% of $120k ($84k) in federal income tax, you would need $100k in deductions. And thats without counting state income tax, property tax, or sales tax.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
24399 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 11:35 am to
quote:

I have a friend making $450k in NOLA with 2 kids and he recently let it slip that he’s living from hand to mouth. Has a lot of CC debt to keep up his “lifestyle”.

How does this happen?



Sounds like you have a front row seat to watch his life collapse.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5473 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 11:52 am to
Well the OP did say Nola, not Louisiana. If you make $450,000 in Nola and aren’t increasing your net worth substantially year over year you are mostly retarded, however . . .

two kids at Newman or country day plus summer camps is $60,000 a year after taxes. Buy a +$1 million dollar uptown home and it will generally cost a fortune to insure, heat, cool, maintain, to say nothing if the note. Add in cars, join a country club, ride in a few Mardi Gras parades and you are a second home or time share away from pretty well pissing your take home pay down the drain.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216008 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 12:22 pm to
37,500 is a lot of money a month...... him not being able to get by with flyings colors is strange.......
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5473 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 12:32 pm to
I agree with you completely, but to be fair he isn’t taking home $37,000 a month. Withhold 40% for state and federal income and employment taxes and the take home is $22,500. It’s pretty easy to spend $15,000 a month living the “i’m rich” lifestyle in New Orleans with 2 kids. Fall asleep at the wheel and jumping to $20,000 or more in spending isn’t impossible.
Posted by Newrow
Member since Oct 2017
946 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 12:32 pm to
Wut? This doesn’t add up.
Posted by tigersfan1989
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
1265 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 12:32 pm to
Fancy homes, luxury cars, private school tuition, travel ball, golf, vacations, fine dining. I don't make anywhere near 450K but I bet you I can find a way to spend it. If he's hanging around those making the same income he is then he's also trying to keep up the same lifestyle his friends have. This happens at every level of income.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85507 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 12:33 pm to
shite, I wouldn't live in Nola if I was making that much.

Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
22845 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 12:33 pm to

Time to start downsizing lifestyle.
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