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re: 'Bad police work' in Alton Sterling's death, but don't expect a conviction ...

Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:48 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:48 am to
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You seem to be the expert here.
Good one.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:48 am to
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You should read that part Mr. Expert
Thanks, it's not really relevant to this discussion, but I appreciate it.

Are you waiting for to review all of the evidence before giving your 1st OT opinion on the subject?
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84834 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:48 am to
From what I understand, two officers are given the same "area". When an officer responds to a call, he calls for his second officer when he feels he needs the support.

Do you think having more officers would have made things better? People would be bitching about how it's "overkill" (for lack of a better word).

Yes, Alton was a big man, but I don't blame the officers for thinking they could "take him". And you have to think of the reality of the situation. An encounter can go from "neutral" to "oh shite" in just seconds.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
131087 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:49 am to
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I bet they did. Is one named Gary?

That would probably be a conflict of interest for him.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:49 am to


quote:

Ken Williams


quote:

"Unlike most people in America, I've been involved in taking guns off of people, I've been shot at in the line of duty and I've had to shoot someone trying to take my life," said Williams, who now works as an expert witness. "Based on what's been released now, I don't like what I'm seeing."



Oh you dont say
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112520 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:49 am to
shel, you are actually being stupid in here. Commenting based on the video is one thing, commenting on the tasering, which there is zero video or testimonial evidence from the cops at the time, is ridiculous
This post was edited on 9/19/16 at 10:49 am
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
11614 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:49 am to
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To be fair, they said it was based on the video currently available. But, you're right, most of the ignorant masses will gloss over that and move straight to the intended purpose of the article which is to say the cops are guilty but we just can't prove it.

See the post above yours for a solid reference of this glossing.
Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
41839 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:49 am to
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I'm so sick of seeing this clowns story before every LSU game. make it stop



Are they showing this on tv before every game?

If so, I'm glad I'm watching them in person. Christ.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33882 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:49 am to
They were pressured into giving that statement, I'm sure. The more video you see, the more obvious it is that the cops were right to shoot him
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:50 am to
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He wasn't even responding to you, dip shite.
This dude is angry already, and it's only page 1.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17753 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:50 am to
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He reached for the gun and he's dead. Seems like it worked fine.


Anytime a life is taken, we should reflect on the tactics employed to see if there was an alternative not realized at the time. That's all I am saying. The killing was justified in the end

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:50 am to
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Good one.


Why won't you answer the question?

You've been gloating about how you've been right this whole time so let's hear what the proper solution should have been.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:51 am to
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Are they showing this on tv before every game?

If so, I'm glad I'm watching them in person. Christ.


Yes, every game and every chance they can to bring it up during the game.

Commentator 1: Leonard rushes for 35 yards on the run up the middle.

Commentator 2: Speaking of 35, did you know Alton Sterling was just 35 years old with 4 children he left behind after being murdered by BRPD.
This post was edited on 9/19/16 at 10:53 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112520 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:51 am to
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Are you waiting for to review all of the evidence before giving your 1st OT opinion on the subject?
I wont give an opinion to the tasering. Because to do so, is idiotic at this point
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17753 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:54 am to
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Yes, Alton was a big man, but I don't blame the officers for thinking they could "take him". And you have to think of the reality of the situation. An encounter can go from "neutral" to "oh shite" in just seconds.


agree 100%

these officers were pretty lucky TBH. Alton reached for his gun causing one officer to shoot him while another officer was in extremely close proximity. While it worked out, there was a higher risk associated with their actions rather than waiting for back up

I'd rather deal with public outcry about "overkill" than taking a life. Even if the victim is a POS
This post was edited on 9/19/16 at 10:55 am
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:54 am to
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This dude is angry already, and it's only page 1


Your arrogance is astounding and quite pathetic.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:54 am to
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shel, you are actually being stupid in here. Commenting based on the video is one thing, commenting on the tasering, which there is zero video or testimonial evidence from the cops at the time, is
You win the award for going off the rails in every debate you ever step into.

There's really no reason to take you serious, you freak out every single time, that's a sign of a lack of an ability to be rational during a discussion, so yea, there's that.

I said the same thing as 4 of the 5 experts, I'M SOOOOOOOOOOOO STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess you just really know more about policing and have studied it more than those 5 guys, so good for you!!!
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45504 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:56 am to
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these officers were pretty lucky TBH. Alton reached for his gun causing one officer to shoot him while another officer was in extremely close proximity. While it worked out, there was a higher risk associated with their actions rather than waiting for back up



Good point.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112520 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:56 am to
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I said the same thing as 4 of the 5 experts, I'M SOOOOOOOOOOOO STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are absolutely melting.

Explain, how one can draw any conclusion on the tasering at this point? Even the worlds biggest expert, how can they infer anything about what led to the tasering?
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89507 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:57 am to
Did I read that right? That the police were supposed to safely retreat?
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