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re: Bachelor Nation: 70% of Men Aged 20-34 Are Not Married
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:27 am to link
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:27 am to link
quote:After doing online dating for a while, I can say that this is pretty true. They all pretend to be this perfect thing that they think every guy wants.
Women are very uninteresting, have very few hobbies/passions/goals, and have super unrealistic expectations about what a man/relationship should be.
95% of the profiles say:
Love travel
Workaholic
Like to dress up, but also like to get muddy
Looking for someone stable w/good career
I have told a few of them that they are boring, and I am uninterested. Told one the other day that I got bored with the conversation, and wished her good luck. Pretty much learned everything about her in 5 emails. frick that.
Cookie-cutter bitches are boring, but I guess girls think that's what guys want to hear for some reason. I'd take an IRL 7 that was interesting and fun over a boring arse OT 10 any day of the week. Maybe if I was stable and settled into a boring life, I'd be okay with that, but then bitches don't want a boring life. They either don't know what they actually want, or are scared to convey it for some reason.
I am exclusively interested in the outliers. I'm not the best looking dude, but not a single person in the world will ever be able to say I'm boring.
quote:I have gotten in trouble with girls before because of my temper and amount of control I have in certain situations. My honest take on it is that girls naturally are subordinate, and want the guy to be in charge. For some reason, they want to act otherwise now.
emasculated, feminine, weak, and non-aggressive males
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 11:33 am
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:27 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Knew a guy that fell into this category. His wife finished her degree in engineering and upon moving up the ranks, left him for a guy making deep into six figures. So, between the two, they were making almost $300K and she went after her X for every drop of child support(he made about $40K)
she gets domiciliary status and you have to pay child support (the calculation includes her income)
Now, I know I know. He's legally obligated blah blah blah.
If you go after someone for child support in that situation, especially given you moved far enough away that he basically never sees the kids, you're just a fricking count. That the courts allow it is criminal
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:31 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:agree, for george clooney and brad pitt, they can have their pick. but the problem is a disproportionate number of tom, dick, and harrys look look in the mirror and see brad clooney. they think they're interesting. they're not; they have interchangeable hobbies like every other dude, and they think and talk pretty much the same. yet they will hate on women for being boring and all the same. that's the big picture hypocrisy...part of it.
well there can only be so many "high value" men, but "high value" men can expect this outlier slice of women
and
"high value" men can troll the physical prime age of females (18-24) until their 40s without much issue
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:34 am to Hammertime
you are overthinking it man.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:37 am to Hammertime
quote:
After doing online dating for a while, I can say that this is pretty true. They all pretend to be this perfect thing that they think every guy wants.
I've noticed that a lot of the profiles I see from women stress that they love the outdoors. Complete with several pictures of them "hunting". You would think they were fricking Survivorman from reading this stuff. But they probably do as many outdoorsy things as the average girl but know that guys like hunting. Not saying that some of them aren't genuine... but certainly not all of them since that is a good chunk of the profiles I see.
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 11:39 am
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:41 am to Salmon
quote:
I've spent plenty of time in very urban areas, and sure, what you are talking about is out there, but it is not the dominant relationship structure
not even close really
99% of the extreme social justice/feminism movement you read about exists only on the internet.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:41 am to Tiger Ryno
Nah, the way I see it....most of them try to fit into some stupid mold that they think guys want. Most guys don't actually want that, and never have. I'm not gonna waste my time with some trophy wife. I wouldn't get married to one, but they all portray themselves as what they think "perfect" is. The good, fun ones with half of a personality are hard to find
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:43 am to link
quote:That's why I only jerk it to ugly girls. Makes you appreciate things a bit more.
more and more guys are jerking off to them and expecting that level of quality for every woman. same with the internet porn they're addicted to. they're seeing a skewed percentage of attractive women that doesn't accurately represent the real world.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:43 am to Hammertime
quote:
they all portray themselves as what they think "perfect" is. The good, fun ones with half of a personality are hard to find
and every guy "knows how to treat a girl right" or is "laid back guy" or whatever
your criticisms for women are the same for guys
and I always think that guys that complain about not being able to find the good, fun chicks are just guys that the good, fun chicks don't find attractive...probably because those guys aren't as interesting as they think
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:43 am to Hammertime
American women are the fricking pits.
I'm done with them. A bunch of cardboard cut out sluts.
I'm done with them. A bunch of cardboard cut out sluts.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:44 am to Hammertime
I hear you. I have never done online dating so I don't really know what you are experiencing but I have heard it from several folks. seems miserable.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:46 am to SlowFlowPro
slow, take this guy for example
he goes on to admit he's not the best looking guy and has temper issues. i think we can assume he's not a celebrity, CEO, or otherwise overtly "high valued" guy, but look how highly he thinks of himself. he's an outright douche to girls if they're not what he expects.
quote:
I have told a few of them that they are boring, and I am uninterested. Told one the other day that I got bored with the conversation, and wished her good luck. Pretty much learned everything about her in 5 emails. frick that.
he goes on to admit he's not the best looking guy and has temper issues. i think we can assume he's not a celebrity, CEO, or otherwise overtly "high valued" guy, but look how highly he thinks of himself. he's an outright douche to girls if they're not what he expects.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:46 am to Hammertime
A few rules to go by:
1. Men attract women by differentiating themselves. They find a "talent" so to speak and exploit it. You can be athletically gifted, attractive, funny, musically talented, a great dancer, witty, ect. A guy has to have something that sets him apart.
2. Most women attract men by doing the opposite. They conform to a "norm" so to speak that they believe is the template for attracting a man. Just read gossip magazines like Cosmo or visit Sorority Row. Women are drawn to conform to a standard in order to attract men whom they believe desire that template of a women.
3. What women want and what women think they want are often two very very very different things.
4. What women say they want and what women think they want and what women actually want are three even more different things (remember, they're conforming to what they think you want).
5. What women want and what they are attracted to are often polar opposites. I have seen this often with female friends who fall into the SJW category (the straight ones, anyhow). They rant and rave about misogynists and the patriarchy, but if their man doesn't defend them enough, they go apeshit. However, if their "wussy" man suddenly bowes up and acts like a man, she's on his junk faster than Speedy Gonzales on Pepperjack Cheese. Women generally desire a manly, aggressive male, but they want a weak, passive one that they can boss around.
6. The birth control pill has been proven to alter the perception of women regarding the attractiveness of their mates. Women on the pill ten to be attracted to more androgynous men while women off the pill desire more burly, stereotype "male" types. It has to do with the types of hormones used in the pill.
7. Women want security, but desire excitement. No woman gets wet thinking about a guy's 401k, but a guy who shreds like Eddie Van Halen and drives a motor cycle is generally going to be pretty attractive. However, when women are younger, they are more willing to give into their "attractive" impulses. As they age, society beats them down until they settle for "security". A guy who provides both will always win over one who can only do one or the other.
8. Women used to also be able to differentiate themselves via housekeeping skills. However, this generation, and to a lesser extent, the generation before them, has completely missed out on these essential skills. Most young women can't cook. Even fewer of them are willing to clean, know how to sew, garden, bake, or have any real useful skills. Their parents created a generation of spoiled, narcissistic women who have little to offer society but their looks, but then complain that that is the only metric by which they are judged. Sure, there are tons of intelligent career women out there. But if little sorority Susie expects to be able to attain her Mrs. degree, she better learn something more valuable than "looks effortlessly cute in her giant t-shirt and nike shorts".
1. Men attract women by differentiating themselves. They find a "talent" so to speak and exploit it. You can be athletically gifted, attractive, funny, musically talented, a great dancer, witty, ect. A guy has to have something that sets him apart.
2. Most women attract men by doing the opposite. They conform to a "norm" so to speak that they believe is the template for attracting a man. Just read gossip magazines like Cosmo or visit Sorority Row. Women are drawn to conform to a standard in order to attract men whom they believe desire that template of a women.
3. What women want and what women think they want are often two very very very different things.
4. What women say they want and what women think they want and what women actually want are three even more different things (remember, they're conforming to what they think you want).
5. What women want and what they are attracted to are often polar opposites. I have seen this often with female friends who fall into the SJW category (the straight ones, anyhow). They rant and rave about misogynists and the patriarchy, but if their man doesn't defend them enough, they go apeshit. However, if their "wussy" man suddenly bowes up and acts like a man, she's on his junk faster than Speedy Gonzales on Pepperjack Cheese. Women generally desire a manly, aggressive male, but they want a weak, passive one that they can boss around.
6. The birth control pill has been proven to alter the perception of women regarding the attractiveness of their mates. Women on the pill ten to be attracted to more androgynous men while women off the pill desire more burly, stereotype "male" types. It has to do with the types of hormones used in the pill.
7. Women want security, but desire excitement. No woman gets wet thinking about a guy's 401k, but a guy who shreds like Eddie Van Halen and drives a motor cycle is generally going to be pretty attractive. However, when women are younger, they are more willing to give into their "attractive" impulses. As they age, society beats them down until they settle for "security". A guy who provides both will always win over one who can only do one or the other.
8. Women used to also be able to differentiate themselves via housekeeping skills. However, this generation, and to a lesser extent, the generation before them, has completely missed out on these essential skills. Most young women can't cook. Even fewer of them are willing to clean, know how to sew, garden, bake, or have any real useful skills. Their parents created a generation of spoiled, narcissistic women who have little to offer society but their looks, but then complain that that is the only metric by which they are judged. Sure, there are tons of intelligent career women out there. But if little sorority Susie expects to be able to attain her Mrs. degree, she better learn something more valuable than "looks effortlessly cute in her giant t-shirt and nike shorts".
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 11:52 am
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:46 am to Tiger Ryno
I think the selfishness of this generation of women and men (women because of the age range males 20-34 would be interested in) are the sole reason for the 70% number. They don't want kids because it will change what they can and can't do, assuming they even attempt to raise their child.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:49 am to Mo Jeaux
link has been pretty spot on in this thread IMO
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:52 am to Salmon
quote:
link has been pretty spot on in this thread IMO
Hmm. Well, I generally disagree, but I was wondering about the cause of the amount of effort link was putting into criticizing guys. Thought link may be a female.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:53 am to kingbob
quote:
Men attract women by differentiating themselves. They find a "talent" so to speak and exploit it. You can be athletically gifted, attractive, funny, musically talented, a great dancer, witty, ect. A guy has to have something that sets him apart.
Most women attract men by doing the opposite. They conform to a "norm" so to speak that they believe is the template for attracting a man. Just read gossip magazines like Cosmo or visit Sorority Row. Women are drawn to conform to a standard in order to attract men whom they believe desire that template of a women.
This is very true. We're like those birds in Australia.
Females have boring colors and the more normal the better. Males have bright colors and have to dance around like a crazy bird, and decorate the bachelor pad with old bottle caps and shite.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:53 am to link
I'm just straight up and tell the truth. If you suck, I'm gonna tell you and not just cut all communication with no explanation. I don't do that to hurt the girls or try and change them. I do it because I'm a straight shooter. Maybe of more girls listened to what a guy wants, they'd be married and not bitching about guys.
What that also means is that I'm not gonna change myself just to fit into what some broad wants. Few girls are willing to put up with my bad traits, but the ones who can see that the good outweighs the bad are who I'm interested in. I'm not gonna willing to get married until I find one like that.
What that also means is that I'm not gonna change myself just to fit into what some broad wants. Few girls are willing to put up with my bad traits, but the ones who can see that the good outweighs the bad are who I'm interested in. I'm not gonna willing to get married until I find one like that.
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 11:57 am
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:54 am to TejasHorn
quote:
Females have boring colors and the more normal the better. Males have bright colors and have to dance around like a crazy bird, and decorate the bachelor pad with old bottle caps and shite.
To quote David Chappelle, "If a man could $#*& a woman in a cardboard box, he wouldn't buy a house!"
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