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re: Bachelor Nation: 70% of Men Aged 20-34 Are Not Married
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:10 am to Tigerlaff
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:10 am to Tigerlaff
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Get prepared to be told that you are wasting your potential, not truly happy, missing out on "real" life, not doing your part for the greater good of collective society
Well, it's not that those things are not accurate. It's just that the potential detriments on the other side of the scale outweigh those things.
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Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:11 am to Alatgr
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All these OT "ballers" looking for these crazy expectations of getting a 20 year old at 40 is what I'm getting at.
that is exactly my plan as of now
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:16 am to Tigerlaff
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Posted by Tigerlaff
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"and my hobbies include travelling (although ive never left the country lol), instagram and
"I am a totally spontaneous character, but also grounded and career-oriented."
"I can be the sweetest, most trusting person in the world, but don't get between me and my friends or family or I can be your worst enemy."
"I could not live without books. Currently obsessed with 50 Shades of Grey."
Jesus. Why don't people just be themselves and promote that accordingly? I really hate those types. I bet if you asked her what her biggest flaw was, she'd say that it was that she didn't have a flaw. To pretend to be made of rubber and mold yourself into whatever the relationship called for is recipe for disaster. Doesn't work. It's better just to be yourself and find somebody who is willing to put up with the worst you got.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:19 am to RealityTiger
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I really hate those types. I
90% of all serious dating profiles made by women are pretty much the same. All filled with carp they see in movies, read in magazines, or see on social media
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:21 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I don't disagree with any of that. I'm just glad I didn't let that overall trend prevent me from finding a partner that isn't anything like that. My daughters won't be raised to behave that way. I know lots of families that aren't anything like that. Etc etc
they have pushed a norm that doesn't fit our biological evolution, causing a skyrocketing rate of divorce and marital drama men are rejecting that societal meme, and you are seeing what is being discussed in this thread women don't want to give (because it's seen as devolving), so they end up being single into their mid-30s complaining that they don't have a subservient, stupid male to dominate in a relationship, like jill taylor or debra romano.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:24 am to uway
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I'm just glad I didn't let that overall trend prevent me from finding a partner that isn't anything like that.
i think the vast majority of guys who are saying they'd NEVER get into a long-term relationship are just saying they'll never do it with one of those girls. you found one that fits you, and i am not looking down on you for that
i used long-term relationship, b/c marriage is still a legal scheme that is slanted for females. american women have made all sorts of economic and social progress, but the legal system still acts like it's 1940. they have their cake and eat it too, and it's just a major financial gamble for men to take that risk.
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 10:26 am
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:26 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:this whole thread is an enormous contradiction.
You're really fixated on the George Clooney/Brad Pitt thing. No one has said that at all. This is part of what is the matter with modern women. Y'all think that is the ideal. Meanwhile, y'all are statistically obese, can't cook or keep a house anymore, pursue meaningless corporate jobs and hop on just about every cock around in your 20s. What's attractive about that again?
you got some guys praising the 20-45 female population about how hot they are now, and then you got this guy talking about how fat women are these days.
then to counter these modern day SJW back-patting feminists, who i thought we all agreed were awful, you're joining a modern day he-man woman hater's club and doing the same thing. "yea bro, they're fat! *upvote* "haha yea, i'm gonna frick as many hoes as i can and maybe settle down later, but i aint marrying some sloot who slept around, no way!!!" *upvote*
you're turning into what you hate. you're both wrong, you're both cringe inducing, and both of your extreme views are misguided. have some balance and chill the frick out.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:27 am to Mo Jeaux
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Well, it's not that those things are not accurate. It's just that the potential detriments on the other side of the scale outweigh those things.
The whole debate is bullshite. There are plenty of men who would be happier spending their entire lives independent and free. There are plenty more that would rather sacrifice some of that independence and freedom to experience something they feel brings them more happiness, like raising a family, running marathons, or rigidly adhering to a religion.
The dumb part is where men have started refusing to take other men at their word. It is incredibly disrespectful to tell another adult "You don't know what you really want. You want what I have."
Today, women are allowed to say "I don't want a career, I want to raise a family instead." They can equally say, "I don't want a family or a career, I want to be a stay at home wife." They can decide not to have a family at all and instead pursue powerful and respected positions in politics or business. The world is their oyster. Whatever they want to make of their lives, we as a society have come to understand that it is rude to publicly second-guess them and tell them that they cannot mold it into whatever they wish.
Why can no one shut their damn mouths when a man says "I don't want to be tied down by a wife and kids?" Is it because it rings a little too uncomfortably true to many people? Is it because no one might possibly want to live their lives different from your own?
I don't know. But it's weird. I'm not even on team forever alone, but I certainly wouldn't have the gall to come here and tell people senior to myself "You'll understand when you're older."
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 10:30 am
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:28 am to TheOcean
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90% of all serious dating profiles made by women are pretty much the same. All filled with carp they see in movies, read in magazines, or see on social media
yet they put out on the first night
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:29 am to link
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this whole thread is an enormous contradiction.
you got some guys praising the 20-45 female population about how hot they are now, and then you got this guy talking about how fat women are these days.
then to counter these modern day SJW back-patting feminists, who i thought we all agreed were awful, you're joining a modern day he-man woman hater's club and doing the same thing. "yea bro, they're fat! *upvote* "haha yea, i'm gonna frick as many hoes as i can and maybe settle down later, but i aint marrying some sloot who slept around, no way!!!" *upvote*
you're turning into what you hate. you're both wrong, you're both cringe inducing, and both of your extreme views are misguided. have some balance and chill the frick out.
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Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:30 am to SlowFlowPro
one thing I don't understand about the red pill movement is that they believe modern women are golddiggers who will divorce rape you, while also chastising women who have a lucrative career and can support themselves.
The red pill has some good points..I think the best thing to take from it is don't be a fricking doormat and you will get laid more. Other than that, it's just as irrational as extreme feminism.
The red pill has some good points..I think the best thing to take from it is don't be a fricking doormat and you will get laid more. Other than that, it's just as irrational as extreme feminism.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:31 am to JBeam
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Never really understood the rush to settle down with someone you really don't know that well.
35 and never married.
Some people can't be alone, like my brother. I totally get it, because humans are naturally social creatures.
I believe marriage can either make take your life to new heights or ruin you. I've seen both sides and don't take the decision to marry as lightly as a lot of people do. I've worked too hard to get where I am to marry someone just so I won't be alone.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:31 am to link
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then to counter these modern day SJW back-patting feminists, who i thought we all agreed were awful, you're joining a modern day he-man woman hater's club and doing the same thing. "yea bro, they're fat! *upvote* "haha yea, i'm gonna frick as many hoes as i can and maybe settle down later, but i aint marrying some sloot who slept around, no way!!!" *upvote*
Your skills at comprehension are truly amazing. Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:31 am to TheOcean
quote:and 90% of the responses in this thread are guided by the crap guys see in the internet porn they're addicted to. these loud mouths on both sides expect the unachievable...the women think they're a princess, and the guys think they'll be 40 yr old porshe-driving doctors. they're both dumb.
90% of all serious dating profiles made by women are pretty much the same. All filled with carp they see in movies, read in magazines, or see on social media
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:33 am to TheIndulger
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one thing I don't understand about the red pill movement is that they believe modern women are golddiggers who will divorce rape you, while also chastising women who have a lucrative career and can support themselves.
These things are not mutually exclusive.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:34 am to Deactived
quote:Yeah. It's too large to even be statistically informative.
Kind of a weird age range. Imo, people under 25 should not be married. There's a big difference between a 20yr old and a 34 yr old
I mean, the entire difference could be driving by ages 20-25 which may just mean men are delaying marriage.
To find out which is which, I'd be much more interested in knowing the number break down for age 25-30 and then from 30-35 as compared to those same groups say, 20 years ago.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:34 am to TheIndulger
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I don't understand about the red pill movement is that they believe modern women are golddiggers who will divorce rape you, while also chastising women who have a lucrative career and can support themselves.
i'm all for women having careers and being financially independent. the problem is that women can both have a career and divorce-rape you
like i said earlier, i feel bad for modern women. i posted earlier about how it's just a noble to want to be a professional mother-wife than to be a professional in the corporate world. however modern feminism has seen to attack one and promote the other. it's truly sad
i'm all for people being free to make their own choices. that means if a guy marries a woman young and they grow together, i'm happy for them. if a man and a woman meet in their 30s after establishing careers and they jump right into marriage and babymaking great. but society also should be just as supportive of men/women who have no plans to get tied down, especially via marriage contracts. that's simply not true right now
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:35 am to tke857
quote:thats cause you are a pussy and you let your wife run your life.
The old adage "happy wife happy life" is true as shite. They can either make your life a living hell or heaven.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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but society also should be just as supportive of men/women who have no plans to get tied down, especially via marriage contracts. that's simply not true right now
Some group is always oppressed...
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:38 am to SlowFlowPro
So the problem is society looks down on people doing what makes them happy, even if it's not "normal"
I'm sure you're guilty of that to some extent as well.
I'm sure you're guilty of that to some extent as well.
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